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Fenntucky Mike

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  1. +36 = 3,559 5 Hryven +2 10 Hryven +1 20 Hryven +4 50 Hryven +4 100 Hryven +2 200 Hryven +2 500 Hryven +2 1000 Hryven +2 1 Hryvnia +3 1 Karbovanets +1 3 Karbovantsiv +1 5 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +3 100 Karbovantsiv +1 250 Karbovantsiv +1 500 Karbovantsiv +1 500,000 Karbovantsiv +1 10 Karbowanez +3 50,000 Karbovantsiv +1 Lots of very interesting notes getting graded lately and you know what that means, right.
  2. Most of my graded notes are in PMG holders, like 99.9%, but on occasion I will pick up a note from an "off brand" slabber or PCGS, not because there is a great note housed in the holder but for the holder itself. Buy the note not the holder, not in these instances. I just find it interesting/funny/weird when I see Ukrainian notes housed in "off-brand" holders and since they are all dirt cheap, I'll pick them up from time to time and add them to my collection. Some of these actually have a few nice features which the PMG holders don't, the ACG holder actually had a protective film over the holder (which can be removed) protecting the holder from scratches and rubbing during shipping and while handling. Nice. The other thing I like about some of these is the information on the label, notes or descriptions on the labels like "With latent imprint "КРБ" at left on front" and "Printing: ISPB-France" are nice to have and really help collectors, I think. I guess the more information on the label the greater the opportunity for a "mechanical error", and probably cost, but you would think that most of the labels are saved as templates for each Country and Pick #, and that the templates can be adjusted as notes come in or by some other method. Displaying letter prefixes as they are printed on the note, in the native language/text, instead of translating them to English would be nice as well. Sorry got off track there for a moment. Back to the off brands. There are a bunch out there and I'll pick up more from individual companies as they become available, one per is plenty, and the worse the note in the holder the better, I think. It just makes the thought process behind the question of "Why would you slab that note in that holder?" that much more of an enigma. This is probably my favorite. Just why? Anyone have any notes in atypical holders? Post'em if you do!
  3. +24 = 3,523 2 Hryven +2 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +2 20 Hryven +2 50 Hryven +1 100 Hryven +3 200 Hryven +4 500 Hryven +3 1000 Hryven +1 1 Hryvni +1 3 Karbovantsi +4
  4. Anything other than a circle is a little unusual for a cancellation punch, also that they are not over a signature or date is a little unusual as well in my experience. They took a pretty good bit out of that lion's hiney, looks like it hurt.
  5. Assuming that at the root of the question is, is this note worth more, the same, or less than a similar note without the "As Made Inclusion" comment? My thought is that there would be more people who would pass on a note like this than be attracted to the note because of the inclusion. So in that sense I would think this note would be worth less to the broader collector base than a comparable note without the inclusion, but (assuming that an "As Made Inclusion" is somewhat unusual) there will be those who might pay a premium because of this, or because it tells a story, or fits into their collecting niche. If I found a note, in areas that I collect, with an As Made Inclusion I would pick it up without hesitation, assuming the price wasn't astronomical for the grade, and include it in my collection. To me your note tells a story of the production/printing process, is unusual, interesting, and I something I could build a set around but that's just me. Is this a problem note? Not in my book, especially with EPQ, but others may feel differently. The Inclusion probably didn't hold the grade down much, if at all, either.
  6. Similar to the as made wrinkle comment on the previous note you post IMO, some people will like it some will not. They also put comments on the back of the label for error notes, not that this note is an error note per se. What if that inclusion was a Del Monte sticker?
  7. +23 = 3,499 10 Hryven +1 20 Hryven +2 50 Hryven +1 100 Hryven +2 200 Hryven +1 500 Hryven +2 1000 Hryven +1 2 Hryvni +2 25 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +2 2000 Karbovantsiv +1 5 Karbowanez +3 10 Karbowanez +1 50 Karbowanez +1 100 Karbowanez +1 200 Karbowanez +1 A few interesting older notes showed up in the pop report today.
  8. I don't think PMG will remove notes from CGA holders, but I could be mistaken. My personal preference would be to leave them so as to minimize handling but your best bet would be to check with PMG. You can post this question in the Ask PMG section of the forum or contact them directly. Good luck with your submission. Contact PMG Customer Service at Service@PMGnotes.com or +1 877 PMG 5570 (764 5570).
  9. The scans look excellent, and great notes. Those Russian notes get around, I have several, which I also acquired in a lot/s that I bid on and won for the other notes.
  10. +29 = 3,476 2 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +4 20 Hryven+1 50 Hryven +3 100 Hryven +4 200 Hryven +2 10 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 100 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +2 1,000,000 Karbovantsiv +1 1 Karbowanez +2 5 Karbowanez +2 10 Karbowanez +1 100 Karbowanez +2 200 Karbowanez +1
  11. It's what I do, can't wait to see some once you acquire them.
  12. I imagine that the ruble circulated more so near the Russian boarder similar to the Scottish notes in your area but, unlike the Scottish notes, rubles were/are also purposely introduced into the local economy via cash transactions and some business dealing only in rubles for one reason or another. Did the Euro ever circulate widely in the UK, do you see less of them now after Brexit? Good to see you back my friend. Been awhile.
  13. A remainder is a note that was never issued/released which lessens the value normally when compared to issued notes in similar condition, outliers would be if the note was in uber condition or is a rarity, this note is neither. The selvage, uncut paper from the sheet, adds some value IMO but not too much.
  14. Hello and welcome to the PMG forum. The extra paper wouldn't bother me one bit, neither does the centering mark, notes were typically shipped as four subject sheets at the time and cut out then signed as they were issued. With this being a remainder the extra paper being present has a legitimate reason for it still being attached. Now, this very well could have been cut from a sheet by Littleton and sold as is. Got a pic of the back? To me it seems legit.
  15. That's a very ambitious list of sets you have there, good luck in assembling them. You can drag and drop a picture right into your post, the only restrictions are that it needs to be a jpg, gif, tiff, etc., and under 4.88MB in size. That's me working off of my desk top, not sure if using a phone is any different.
  16. Thanks! I was hoping for a little better grades than the 64 & 65 two of the specimens received but those grades were not outside of the range I thought they were in. For these series notes technically no, but they did perforate "SPECIMEN" into several proofs, color trials and unissued notes. Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't believe Ukraine has ever had an issued note with specimens that were perforated. Fortunately there are several pretty good references on these, unfortunately none of the references contains all of the information as a whole and some information is just not documented at all. I have yet to come across any printing figures for Ukrainian specimens, so I couldn't give you an actual number of how many of each were printed. As far as availability, from my perspective, notes from the first series are the hardest to find followed by the fourth, second and third series. There are some harder to find varieties within each series, but in general that's how they seem to rank. The first series specimens from 1991 only have red overprint specimens but if you were to include proofs and color trials this becomes the series with the most varieties, several were perforated "SPECIMEN" by I.S.B. (Imprimerie Special de Banque). For each issued note in the first series (7 notes total) there are known proofs with "SPECIMEN" perforated just above the numeric denomination on the face. There are also several unissued coupons/denominations with "SPECIMEN" perforated in the same location, if someone was to include the proofs, unissued notes and color trials in their collecting goals they would be looking at 40 notes total for just the first series. Unissued denomination below, a proof, with "SPECIMEN" perforated above the denomination. The second series, printed by T.D.L.R. (Thomas de la Rue), has fewer notes and only specimens with red overprint, but, again, if you start including proofs and color trials that number jumps up and more than doubles the number of notes with "SPECIMEN" on them. Color trials below. The third and fourth series, printed by T.D.L.R. and the N.B.U. (National Bank of Ukraine), have the most specimens in terms of shear number of denominations and variations/varieties. The most common varieties are simple date changes on the notes when more were printed and prefix changes, going from a fractional to alphabetical (fractional prefix notes printed by T.D.L.R., alphabetical prefix notes printed by the N.B.U). There are some proofs known for the third and fourth series but not nearly as many as the others and no color trials that I am aware of. Proof Date and prefix change within series/denomination. If you are counting only legitimate specimens from these series you are looking at a 30 note collection, if you include the variation/varieties, a type set would be 20. If you included proofs and color trials then you'd probably be looking at around 70 notes! The possibility of someone actually being able to assemble a set like that is pretty much zero though, the notes just aren't available or don't exist and the financial aspect of it would only make it possible for a select few. I'll stick to drooling over pictures. I also suspect that there could be even more variations not listed in any of the references but have not found the notes to prove it yet. The odds are low of me ever finding these, or that they were even printed, but if I do discover them you'll hear it here first.
  17. +41 = 3,447 20 Hryven +3 50 Hryven +8 100 Hryven +8 200 Hryven +14 500 Hryven +3 1000 Hryven +4 2 Hryvni +1
  18. I'm pretty sure PMG wouldn't reject a note if it was in a holder containing PVC, now if the note was damaged/had PVC residue on it due to long term storage in a PVC holder then maybe. My recommendation would be to get a Mylar holder anyway, especially if you have other notes you are storing and are not submitting. Almost all new holders/sleeves are comprised of non-PVC plastics, I'm having a hard time remembering when I saw a PVC holder last. You can post this in the Ask PMG section and see what they say.
  19. Hi Julio, Welcome to the PMG forum! I think your correct with that grade range, 4-8, I did a quick search of sold listings at Heritage Auctions and one of these(France, Pick # 74) graded EF40 by PMG, with a France Pick # 131b (PMG 50) sold for $264 on June 20 of this year. I would put the value at under $20 from what I've seen in my quick searching. https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ns=Time|1||Lot+No|0&N=790+231&Ntt=france+20+francs+1916&ic4=SortBy-071515
  20. Hello, welcome to the forum. You can download a submission form directly off of the PMG website, from there just follow the instructions on the form and on the main webpage. https://www.pmgnotes.com/ Or you can contact PMG directly at one of their worldwide locations. United States PMG P.O. Box 4755 Sarasota, FL 34230 United States Hours (Monday to Friday): 9:00am to 5:00pm EST 1-877-PMG-5570 toll free (+1) 941 309 1001 (+1) 941 309 1002 fax Service@PMGnotes.com Please use this address if shipping with FedEx or UPS: 5501 Communications Parkway Sarasota, FL 34240 PMGnotes.com China - Hong Kong SAR NGC Hong Kong Ltd. Suite 1208-10, 12/F, Tower 1, The Gateway, Harbour City, 25 Canton Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon, Hong Kong, China Office visits by appointment only. Hours (Monday to Friday): 10:00am to 6:00pm (+852) 2115 3639 (+852) 2115 3783 fax Service@PMGnotes.hk PMGnotes.hk China - Mainland NGC Shanghai Business Information Consulting Co., Ltd. Unit 1101-41, Shanghai Central Plaza, 381 Huaihai Middle Road, Shanghai, China 200020 Office visits by appointment only. Hours (Monday to Friday): 8:45am to 5:30pm (+86) 400 635 8226 toll free (+86) 21 6091 8050 (+86) 21 6091 2581 fax Service@PMGnotes.cn PMGnotes.cn Germany NGC International GmbH Seidlstrasse 28, 80335 Munich, Germany Office visits by appointment only. Hours (Monday to Friday): 9:00am-12:00pm and 1:30-5:00pm +49 (0) 89 550 66 780 Service@PMGnotes.de PMGnotes.de NGC International UK Ltd. 69 Southampton Row, Second Floor Bloomsbury WC1B 4ET London, United Kingdom Office visits by appointment only. Please call or email to schedule an appointment. Hours (Monday to Friday): 9:00am to 5:30pm +44 (0) 20 3968 3848 +44 (0) 20 3968 3849 fax Service@PMGnotes.uk PMGnotes.uk India NGC India Numismatic Services Private Limited Service@PMGnotes.in PMGnotes.in
  21. Fenntucky Mike

    Here We Go Again

    Ever since the forcible annexation of the Crimean Peninsula by Russia in 2014 the NBU has banned any currency depicting "illustrated maps, symbols, buildings, monuments, archaeological sites, landmarks, landscapes, or any other objects, situated in the territory of Ukraine occupied by Russia.", and for obvious reasons the NBU has now banned the use of all Russian and Belarusian rubles in Ukraine. This most recent ban took effect on February 24, 2022, the day of the invasion, and was an amendment to Resolution No. 18, passed by the Board of the National Bank of Ukraine, "On the operation of the banking system during the introduction of martial law". https://bank.gov.ua/ua/legislation/Resolution_24022022_21 In part the document reads: 17. Authorized institutions are prohibited from making any currency transactions operations: 1) using Russian rubles and Belarusian rubles; 2) the participant of which is a legal entity or an individual having a location (registered/permanently resides) in the Russian Federation or the Republic Belarus; 3) to fulfill obligations to legal entities or individuals who are located (registered/permanently reside) in Russia Federation or in the Republic of Belarus. As mentioned, prior to the war, there were already several Russian banknotes banned from use in Ukraine, mainly those depicting scenes and/or maps of annexed Crimea, (see Journal entry "Back In The U.S.S.R.?" for further details on those coins and notes https://boards.pmgnotes.com/blogs/entry/1412-back-in-the-ussr/ ) and Russia's 2022 100 ruble banknote is another that would have been banned even if the current events in Ukraine had not unfolded. The newest series of banknotes is part of a complete teardown/redesign of the current series originally issued in 1997, with new notes scheduled to be released from 2022 - 2025. The 100 ruble notes were supposed to be the first notes of the new series to be introduced and released into circulation on June 30th of this year (2022). On the face is depicted Spasskaya Tower, Ostankino Television Tower, The Soaring Bridge in Zaryadye park, Zaryadye concert hall, and the main building of Moscow State University. On the back is a depiction the 82ft tall statue located at the Rzhev Memorial to the Russian Soldier complex, along with white storks, an aerial view, and a map of Russia/Russian Federation. The map, as with previous map depictions on recent issues of Russian ruble notes, depicts the Crimean Peninsula as part of the RF. Circled in blue below. In The Bank of Russia's eagerness to stay on schedule they seem to have ignored advise/requests to delay the announcement of the release, as the new 100 ruble notes were/are unable to circulate in large quantities due to Western companies, who maintain Russia's ATMs, point of sale terminals, and cash registers, leaving or refusing to update the machines with the required software needed for the new notes to be accepted. The refusal to cooperate with the Central Bank in the updating of equipment by these companies is due to Russia's war with Ukraine and the sanctions imposed on Russia by a good portion of the world. Several articles state that it could take the Central Bank/Russia six months to a year before the updates are complete and the 100 ruble note can be issued or widely circulate. In the meantime, there are reports that 100 ruble notes of the 2022 design are being trickled into circulation, there are also reports that all issuance of these notes has stopped but in either case these will not be widely released or produced in large quantities until the adaptation of all banking equipment is complete or nearly so. Several questions still remain, such as. With the need to delay the release due to a lack of equipment updates, will all subsequent releases in the new series be delayed six months to a year as well? If that is truly how long it takes to reset the system. Why weren't the updates made or a new plan laid out prior to the official announcement of the release of the 100 ruble note? Will these notes be scrapped and/or designs updated if Russia seizes more territory in Ukraine? The Bank of Russia has removed images and descriptions of the note from their website, at least from the 2022 banknote selection, and who knows what will happen next. I'll be adding this note to my Banned in Ukraine collection of paper money, I'm not planning on including all of the current or upcoming series of rubles, only notes that fit the NBU's criteria prior to the war. These notes are currently available from a few select sellers but the prices are a little stratospheric at the moment, once these are released in full the price should drop considerably.
  22. Well, after a few years of talking about it I finally sent a submission into PMG. I wanted to test the waters first, so I only sent in a batch of 10 specimen notes. Notes that I feel are properly listed in the Standard Catalog of World Paper Money with appropriate Pick #'s and accurate descriptions. Some of the notes would fill holes in my PMG registry set, others don't currently have homes in the registry but hopefully PMG will create them when I request some new sets. We'll see. I didn't have time to take images of the notes prior to submitting them, I wanted to for a little guess the grade, but I'll try to make that happen next time. At any rate, they've gone and returned already, ahead of the projected turnaround time listed by PMG, and they are looking great in their new holders. The first batch of specimens were from the early years, shortly after Ukraine's break from the USSR. The first notes issued by the newly independent Republic were several series of coupons, or control coupons as they are often referred to, denominated in karbovanets. The first series specimens (printed, 1991) are the least common of the four, and the most simplistic in design and security features. There is currently no registry set for these. I've decided to go with a black background for the imaging (scanning) of all the notes, I like it. It's much better than a white background for these, as the boarders of the notes tend to blend in with a white background making distinguishing where the edge of the note stops and starts very difficult at times. A big improvement for these, I think, and it really makes the notes POP. The second series coupons (first printing, 1992) received a new design but were printed on similar paper, with identical watermark, and cut to same dimensions as the first series. The back design is identical on the three notes from the submission, other than the denomination and color ink used, so I'm only posting the back of one of the notes. These are not to terribly hard to find, as I see them somewhat regularly, and no varieties helps. There is currently no registry set for the second series specimens. The 2000 Karbovantsiv note below is somewhat of a transitional note, while this note is grouped with the Third series notes (first printing,1993) the design is more in line with the second series notes (1992) as the major design elements, size and watermark are identical to that series of notes. The only things this note has in common with the third series notes is the shield with Tryzub on the face of the note and being dated 1993. Next we have the third series notes, with these notes we have yet another design change, plus a size change to go along with the new design, the notes became larger. If you haven't noticed the values have been increasing steadily with each new issue, inflation was riding roughshod over the entire Nation at the time facilitating the need for ever higher denominations of coupons in Ukraine. There are multiple varieties for most of the notes in this series and this series has the most denominations meaning that notes from this series are often seen, but there are a few key date varieties that are very difficult to find. There is a specimen set in the PMG registry for the third and fourth series notes and the six eligible notes from this submission are now located in their new registry set homes. The fourth series notes, at least what I'm calling the fourth series notes, were issued starting in 1994, with more design changes and ever-increasing denominations. These don't hit the auction blocks very frequently but are more common than the first series. These are included in the same registry set as the third series notes, and with only three notes comprising the fourth series, I'm in complete agreement with that set configuration. The 1,000,000 karbovantsiv note was printed in 1995 and is listed as a standalone issue in the SCWP, which is based on issue date, but if we were categorizing based on issue dates alone then the 200,000 & 500,000 karbovantsiv notes of 1994 should be the fourth series and the 1,000,000 karbovantsiv of 1995 the fifth series. My preference would be to classify these by design/series and that would mean the 2000 karbovantsiv note posted above would move to the second series (1992) notes, along with the 5000 karbovantsiv note of '93, then the two hundred thousand, five hundred thousand and one million karbovantsiv notes would be the fourth series. But that's an argument for another time/journal entry. I am very pleased with the job done by PMG and all of the grades seem fair/accurate to me, they are at least within a range that I thought the notes would grade at. At any rate, these specimen sets are all about completing the set, including all varieties, as these notes don't come up for sale very often. Now that I'm nearing the end, with fewer slots left to fill, the task becomes even more difficult in finding the notes needed. I currently have six empty slots left in my registry set but I have three of the notes required raw and will be submitting them soon, I forgot to include them with this batch , and I know of a note going to auction in the near future that would also fit in nicely. If all goes according to plan, I will have only two notes missing from the set by the end of the year, which would be a major coup for me, and who knows maybe those other two elusive notes will show up as well.
  23. Facebook, ebay, etc.. are all good selling platforms and you could post these in the Note Marketplace on this forum. Looks like they go for around $10-$20 each, it'd probably be closer to $10 for a large lot like that or closer to $20 if sold individually but it will take longer to sell them.
  24. +25 = 3,406 2 Hryven +1 5 Hryven +2 10 Hryven +2 20 Hryven +3 50 Hryven +4 100 Hryven +3 200 Hryven +2 500 Hryven +1 1000 Hryven +1 1 Hryvnia +2 1 Karbovanets +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 100 Karbovantsiv +1 20 Karbowanez +1
  25. Welcome to the PMG forum Notaphily! I would have to assume that this has something to do with Iran being a country sanctioned by the U.S.. I would think that if you live in the U.S. and are shipping the notes from a U.S. address to PMG in Florida that these should be ok for them to grade and encapsulate but there could very well be additional laws/regulations preventing PMG to handle these or certain notes. I guess your only option would be to send them in and see what they say. I'd make sure that PMG would ship the notes back to you if rejected. Good luck.