Fenntucky Mike

With some grading credits in-hand I sent off a couple of submissions to PMG to help fill out some of my sets, mainly my specimen sets. Since I had the credits, I decided to send in a couple of duplicates, tried for a few upgrades and sent in some notes that are not worth the cost of grading. All-in-all the results were pretty good with no real disappointments or surprises, and PMG updated their Pick #'s to correctly identify all the notes. The first submission consisted of four notes/certificates with a denomination of 1,050,00 Karbovantsiv, listed as Pick # 101, two of the notes were "issued" and two were remainders. These are large pieces and required the oversized holder which further drove up the cost of the submission, but I definitely wanted to send in at least one example each of a used certificate and a remainder, I sent in two remainders in hopes of improving my odds of a higher grade and I sent in the second used certificate because why not. The SCWPM did not list a # 101r, for a remainder, in the last edition so I wasn't sure how PMG would label the notes, since I had sent in examples of "issued" and remainder certificates my hope was that PMG would generate/request a new P# for the 101r. Knowing that it probably didn't exist I entered 101r for the P# on the submission form and sent them in, well, PMG pulled a new P# and labeled the certificates correctly whether how I submitted the notes had anything to do with it I don't know, but I'll take it. I will say that this seemed to delay the submission for a few weeks as when the notes were first entered and scheduled for grading the following message was attached to the remainders description "N/A X332X due to various cases This note label has been manually entered Please contact Customer Service if you feel that this is an error", eventually this was replaced by UKE101r 1995 1,050,000 Karbovantsiv Ukraine. I imagine that the additional time was to acquire a P# and update their system. The remainders graded 66 & 67, the "issued" notes were both 58 EPQ. The next submission was a group of modern specimen notes. First up was a 1991 5 Karbovantsiv note, a tough one to find, and I was worried that PMG wouldn't label this note correctly as they have typically labeled other specimens from this series with only an "s" after the P#. The SCWP does list two different specimens for this note P# 83s1 (SPECIMEN, perforated) and 83s2 (SPECIMEN, red overprint), there are actually five different specimen variants, six if you include the printer's design, and with PMG having previously labeled my P# 81s2 as 81s I was a little nervous. Thankfully the note was labeled correctly and made its way through grading unscathed. I think some recent submissions from other individuals of the s1 notes and possibly my inclusion of both current P#'s in my registry set, may have helped with this. The only problem now is that there are several notes out there with incorrect labels and the PMG population report is lacking in information. Anyway, here's the note! Next was a 10 Karbovantsiv note from the same series. I had the same concerns with this note as the P# 83s2 but this one made it through and was accurately labeled as well. Next up is P# 88s, this note filled in a hole in my NBU - 1991-1995 Issue, P81-P100, Specimen, Complete set. As did the previous two notes. Next up was an attempt at an upgrade but the note fell short. Another hole filler here in the same set, a tough note to find and I'm happy with a 64 EPQ. Another try at an upgrade, this one worked out and replaced a 66. Another upgrade, this one replaced a 65 EPQ. I actually sent in two of these, both graded 66 EPQ, if anyone is looking for one let me know we can probably work out a deal. Another successful attempt at an upgrade, this note replaced a 64 EPQ. The rest of the notes are after the banking reform in Ukraine and are denominated in Hryvnia, I have to see if I can get the registry to expand the specimen sets for these issues to include varieties, otherwise most of these notes won't have a home. Someone wrote "UKRAINE" in pencil on the note, I knew about it but since I had the credits, I sent it in anyway. Pick # 118as Pick # 119as. I actually sent in two of these as well, both graded 66 EPQ. Pick # 119As Pick # 120as Pick # 121as. I sent in two of these as well, both graded 66 EPQ. Finally, Pick # 122as I want to start adding to my 1917-Date Ukraine type set and will probably start pulling together notes to send for a submission in early summer, but you never know what else might pop up in the meantime.

Looks like you've made good progress on the Impossible set in March, although since you've given yourself a big selection of notes to chose from only adding a handful a month actually shows restraint. Something I'm severely lacking in at times, along with funds it seems as there are a lot great notes tempting me at the moment. I was looking over the A.I.S. and was wondering why you went with moderns for some of the examples? Venezuela particularly caught my eye. Was this the time period you found most interesting, availability of examples, cost, etc.?

I collect mostly foreign currency with Ukraine and former Eastern Bloc countries being my primary focus. I dabble with obsoletes and scrip from Michigan and I'll pull star and fancy numbers from circulation as I come across them. This is the PMG Forum, not mine. This is where I primarily hangout when I'm online but it's pretty quite here.

Are you looking for the series 2013 star notes with duplicated serial numbers from the Western Facility (FW)?

Right on brother, collect what interests you. I 100% agree. I'm not quite understanding what you're trying to say here but if it's that you have notes with matching serial numbers that is a cool find. I do not.

The best way to assess the value of a note is to look at sold listings at auction sites like Heritage, Stack's Bowers, Ebay, etc.. Same note (with different bp), same grade, same TPG sold at Stack's in Oct of '21 for $408, that would probably be a good ballpark number for this note. You should do the same for all of the notes you posted to get an idea of value.

+33 = 4,236 5 Hryven +1 20 Hryven +18 50 Hryven +2 100 Hryven +1 200 Hryven +2 500 Hryven +2 1000 Hryven +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +1 5000 Karbovantsiv +3 20,000 Karbovantsiv +1 10 Shahiv +1

I don't collect CSA notes but yes there are CSA notes with a watermark, I believe that CSA in block letters is one and CSA in -script is another. How rare it is to have an actual note, not just a blank piece of paper, with a watermark I don't know. I do know that there are a lot of fakes and reproductions out there as well.

It doesn't seem that you are looking for what are considered traditional fancy numbers, so which serial numbers are you looking for? People hunt and/or have people such as banktellers and the like pull or set aside notes and straps with fancy numbers and those notes typically go straight into a dealer's inventory, auction or collection. If you looking for a number that is only significant to you then you'll have to do a lot of searching but they're out there. Sequential serial numbers don't carry a premium because that is how they are released, if you went to a bank and requested a new strap of $1's they would all be numbered sequentially. If your looking for the first and last number of a production run that us much more difficult.

+29 = 4,203 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +1 100 Hryven +1 500 Hryven +2 1000 Hryven +1 10 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 100 Karbovantsiv +1 250 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +4 5000 Karbovantsiv +2 10 Karbowanez +1 20 Karbowanez +3 50 Karbowanez +1 200 Karbowanez +2 50 Shahiv +1 40 Shahiv +1 1,050,000 Karbovantsiv +4

While having a '76 $2 with a cancelation stamp prior to the 13th is desirable, it is not unusual to come across them. Notes with cancelation dates of April 2nd, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th can be found. Long story short, some bank personnel, at local banks, were known to release some notes prior to the 13th and some post office personnel would stamp the notes with dates prior to the 13th if asked and some just forgot to change the date on the cancelation stamp. As far as value, the best place to check would be sold listings at auction. I took a quick look over at Heritage Auctions and they had a lot of three graded '76 $2 notes, with two of them bearing cancelation stamps prior to April 13th, (2nd and 9th respectively), the lot of three graded notes sold for $129 in July of last year. Based on that information I would estimate the value of your note to be around $20. I'm not a collector of these but if it is rare to find these from that post office the note could bring more.

Unbelievable!

Beautiful note! I particularly like the front vignette, and specimens, well I have a soft spot for specimens. It's always nice when there is a lot of information out there for a note or series of notes. It makes it so much easier and enjoyable on some levels, although it is always nice to dig around for info but that can still be done, you just have a better starting point to find additional info.

Ahh, the rare Thursday evening/Friday morning update. +54 = 4,174 2 Hryven +1 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +6 20 Hryven +6 50 Hryven +2 100 Hryven +3 200 Hryven +1 500 Hryven +2 1 Hryvnia +1 5 Karbovantsiv +1 10 Karbovantsiv +2 100 Karbovantsiv +2 250 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +7 2000 Karbovantsiv +1 5000 Karbovantsiv +1 10,000 Karbovantsiv +5 5 Karbowanez +2 20 Karbowanez +2 50 Karbowanez +2 100,000 Karbovantsiv +1 20,000 Karbovantsiv +3 50,000 Karbovantsiv +1

And another low serial number, 0000006.

Low serial number 0000005.

What type of documents?

Looks like they are all circulation finds other than the '21 Morgan which seems to be in pretty good shape, I'm assuming these are all Philly coins. Very cool pieces but not particularly valuable, I'd keep them just as you have them.

Welcome to the forum. Could you post some pics? We'd love to see them. If you're thinking of sending them in you can contact PMG at service@pmgnotes.com to see if they will even grade these.

No change! +0 = 4,120

Just to be clear the top note is a National Bank Note, series 1902, and would have been issued after the Civil War. It is not Confederate money. Condition and rarity are king, most likely the coins were pulled from circulation and as such wouldn't be worth much. If you post a pic we'll be glad to take a look at them.

Those are some pretty sweet family heirlooms! The silver certificate is not particularly rare or valuable, worth face value in that condition or MAYBE $2 on a good day. The National Banknote is a different story, I'm not a NB collector so I don't have a good feel of what the value might be for that note. The condition is terrible, although the signatures are still very nice, but if from a rare bank or if survival rates are low it could be worth over 1k, or if common it could be worth around $200. I did some quick searching and I'm not really seeing many of these come up, so I'm guessing it's on the rarer side. If I have time I'll do some more searching.

The note should be fine in that case, if storing it long term make sure the case is PVC free.

The area I circled looks like it could have small tears at the edge of the note, maybe it's just creasing hard to say from a pic. A note can only grade as high as it's worst side. Placing a note in a book for example to "flatten" it and make if more presentable. I don't know if it will be given a NET designation or not, but based on the pics it seems that there is a definite possibility that it could.

It's very difficult to say without seeing an image of the entire note, and even then I probably couldn't say with any certainty. You really need to examine a note in-hand. Based on what you've posted so far the note looks to be in pretty rough shape and is probably more likely than not to receive a NET grade, it looks badly wrinkled and stained, has several folds, lots of little tears at the edges and has probably been pressed to flatten it. Sometimes there are so many small little problems with the note that all of them combined will yield a NET grade. I think the tears, and if it was pressed, would cause the note to NET grade. That little ink smear is the least of this notes problems.