Fenntucky Mike

+29 = 4,203 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +1 100 Hryven +1 500 Hryven +2 1000 Hryven +1 10 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 100 Karbovantsiv +1 250 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +4 5000 Karbovantsiv +2 10 Karbowanez +1 20 Karbowanez +3 50 Karbowanez +1 200 Karbowanez +2 50 Shahiv +1 40 Shahiv +1 1,050,000 Karbovantsiv +4

While having a '76 $2 with a cancelation stamp prior to the 13th is desirable, it is not unusual to come across them. Notes with cancelation dates of April 2nd, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th can be found. Long story short, some bank personnel, at local banks, were known to release some notes prior to the 13th and some post office personnel would stamp the notes with dates prior to the 13th if asked and some just forgot to change the date on the cancelation stamp. As far as value, the best place to check would be sold listings at auction. I took a quick look over at Heritage Auctions and they had a lot of three graded '76 $2 notes, with two of them bearing cancelation stamps prior to April 13th, (2nd and 9th respectively), the lot of three graded notes sold for $129 in July of last year. Based on that information I would estimate the value of your note to be around $20. I'm not a collector of these but if it is rare to find these from that post office the note could bring more.

Unbelievable!

Beautiful note! I particularly like the front vignette, and specimens, well I have a soft spot for specimens. It's always nice when there is a lot of information out there for a note or series of notes. It makes it so much easier and enjoyable on some levels, although it is always nice to dig around for info but that can still be done, you just have a better starting point to find additional info.

Ahh, the rare Thursday evening/Friday morning update. +54 = 4,174 2 Hryven +1 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +6 20 Hryven +6 50 Hryven +2 100 Hryven +3 200 Hryven +1 500 Hryven +2 1 Hryvnia +1 5 Karbovantsiv +1 10 Karbovantsiv +2 100 Karbovantsiv +2 250 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +7 2000 Karbovantsiv +1 5000 Karbovantsiv +1 10,000 Karbovantsiv +5 5 Karbowanez +2 20 Karbowanez +2 50 Karbowanez +2 100,000 Karbovantsiv +1 20,000 Karbovantsiv +3 50,000 Karbovantsiv +1

And another low serial number, 0000006.

Low serial number 0000005.

What type of documents?

Looks like they are all circulation finds other than the '21 Morgan which seems to be in pretty good shape, I'm assuming these are all Philly coins. Very cool pieces but not particularly valuable, I'd keep them just as you have them.

Welcome to the forum. Could you post some pics? We'd love to see them. If you're thinking of sending them in you can contact PMG at service@pmgnotes.com to see if they will even grade these.

No change! +0 = 4,120

Just to be clear the top note is a National Bank Note, series 1902, and would have been issued after the Civil War. It is not Confederate money. Condition and rarity are king, most likely the coins were pulled from circulation and as such wouldn't be worth much. If you post a pic we'll be glad to take a look at them.

Those are some pretty sweet family heirlooms! The silver certificate is not particularly rare or valuable, worth face value in that condition or MAYBE $2 on a good day. The National Banknote is a different story, I'm not a NB collector so I don't have a good feel of what the value might be for that note. The condition is terrible, although the signatures are still very nice, but if from a rare bank or if survival rates are low it could be worth over 1k, or if common it could be worth around $200. I did some quick searching and I'm not really seeing many of these come up, so I'm guessing it's on the rarer side. If I have time I'll do some more searching.

The note should be fine in that case, if storing it long term make sure the case is PVC free.

The area I circled looks like it could have small tears at the edge of the note, maybe it's just creasing hard to say from a pic. A note can only grade as high as it's worst side. Placing a note in a book for example to "flatten" it and make if more presentable. I don't know if it will be given a NET designation or not, but based on the pics it seems that there is a definite possibility that it could.

It's very difficult to say without seeing an image of the entire note, and even then I probably couldn't say with any certainty. You really need to examine a note in-hand. Based on what you've posted so far the note looks to be in pretty rough shape and is probably more likely than not to receive a NET grade, it looks badly wrinkled and stained, has several folds, lots of little tears at the edges and has probably been pressed to flatten it. Sometimes there are so many small little problems with the note that all of them combined will yield a NET grade. I think the tears, and if it was pressed, would cause the note to NET grade. That little ink smear is the least of this notes problems.

There are a lot of other auction and selling platforms out there but the problem with them most of the time is that they are usually selling top dollar stuff which attracts deep pockets, sometimes things fall through the cracks and you can score a deal but those days are few and far between. Ebay has a lot of garbage, tricksters, and pitfalls but if you can sift through it all and be patient there are plenty of good sellers and good notes at fair prices to be had. Heritage, Stack's Bowers, Ira & Larry Goldberg, are a few U.S. auction sites that will frequently have CSA notes, I also like to search on sixbid and onebid to see what other auction houses, specifically overseas, might have. You're better off sometimes looking at overseas auction sites for U.S. material.

That's interesting! It looks like it bleed through to the back of the note and that appears red as well. My opinion would be that red ink was used, especially if you can tie it to a series and number range. Good luck in researching this, hopefully there will be a definitive answer for you at the end of this crumb trail.

Is this one hand signed or stamped/printed, the sig in red? Looks stamped but it would be one heck of a sig if not. Was there a changing of the guard that required the additional signature or is it just graffiti? An original Banksy perhaps?

If you're already familiar with CSA notes probably the best one-stop place to shop online would be ebay. If I remember correctly most CSA notes are readily available and won't break the bank in the condition you're looking for but, there are a lot of reproductions out there so acquiring a few good reference books would be at the top of my list of things to do prior to buying anything. If you're able to make a few local coin shows and/or have a local coin shop near by those would be good places to go prior to buying any notes as well.

No, the note would not NET grade because of that ink smear but that doesn't mean it still won't due to other issues. If the graders find any that is.

Oh that would be sweet if I could find one of those! I probably wouldn't turn down that autographed and dated full sheet if they offered it to me either. Just saying NBU. I'd give it a good home. All the notes that I saw in the images and video of the press conference were serialized as ЗС 0000000 and they were not marked as specimens. Images from a Reuters article. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-unveils-banknote-anniversary-russian-invasion-2023-02-23/

+0 = 4,120

It is a local banknote issued by the municipality of Pirmasens, I believe this would be considered notgeld (emergency money). Notgeld generally refers to locally issued money produced in Germany and Austria during World War I and the interwar period, there were thousands of different notgeld banknotes issued and most are not particularly valuable. I see that there are similar examples available on ebay for under $20.

On February 23, 2023 the NBU issued into circulation the commemorative ₴20 banknote "WE WILL NOT FORGET! WE WILL NOT FORGIVE!", Andriy Pyshneyy, Governor of the NBU, presented the new banknote during a press conference earlier in the day. The commemorative note will have a limited run of 300k, all the notes will have prefix ЗС and be dated 2023 with Pyshneyy's signature donning the face. Serial numbers will range from 0000001 to 0300000, with 200k being available in folders and the other 99,900 in envelopes, per the NBU. The selling of commemorative banknotes in souvenir packaging and/or envelopes is typical of the NBU in recent years, and the shortage of 100 notes from the total availability of the envelopes is, presumably, either an error in the press release or some notes were held back to be distributed amongst a few individuals and institutions. The commemorative notes were available for purchase on February 24, through all the standard distributor banks of the NBU, as well as on the NBU's website. The security features are similar to those found on other circulating notes of Ukraine but are design specific to the note, a unique watermark, SPARK feature, micro-text, UV and IR features, etc. can all be found on the note. I'll take a wild guess and say that I expect Pick # 133a to be assigned to this note, or possibly P# CS4. The description of the banknote from the NBU is as follows: "The main image of the front of the note are three Ukrainian soldiers who are hoisting a Ukrainian state flag (photo entitled “Ukrainian soldiers are hoisting a flag” by Oleksandr Smirnov) against the backdrop of fragments of a map of [Eastern] Ukraine [and Crimea] and the flags of the countries that support Ukraine. [The flags of the United Kingdom, European Union, United States and Canada are visible] Above are the following texts (with a laurel wreath between them) in Ukrainian and English: "24 лютого 2022 року повномасштабним вторгненням російської армії розпочався новий етап збройної агресії проти України. Народна війна за незалежність і суверенітет України триває з 2014 року. Це також війна за цивілізаційний вибір: Україна відстоює свою приналежність до європейської цивілізації і водночас – ті засадничі цінності, права і свободи, що лежать в основі західного світу; On 24 February, a new stage of armed aggression against Ukraine began with a full-scale invasion of Ukraine by the russian army. The people’s war for the independence and sovereignty of Ukraine has been going on since 2014. This is also a war for a civilizational choice: Ukraine is defending its place in European civilization, and at the same time fighting for the fundamental values, rights and freedoms that underpin the Western world". Under the laurel wreath are the legend І НА ОНОВЛЕНІЙ ЗЕМЛІ ВРАГА НЕ БУДЕ... (And on the renovated land, there’ll be no enemy...) and a polymer thread containing the symbol of the hryvnia, the logotype of the National Bank of Ukraine, the shoulder patch of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, the emblem Ukraine’s Armed Forces and the legend СЛАВА УКРАЇНІ, ГЕРОЯМ СЛАВА (Glory to Ukraine, Glory to the Heroes). The banknote’s face value 20 is beneath to the left, while the vertical legend ДВАДЦЯТЬ ГРИВЕНЬ (twenty hryvnias) is to the right of the soldiers. There is also a stylized steppe with poppies symbolizing Ukraine’s dead defenders." Photo by Oleksandr Smirnov below. "The main image of the back of the note is a stylized composition that symbolizes the physical and mental suffering of Ukrainians under occupation – hands tied behind a person’s back, against the background of crumpled cloth, behind which a figure with a bullet wound in the form of a poppy is suggested (designed by Serhii Mishakin); on both sides of the figure are stylized wings made from candle flames; above, against the backdrop of the outlines of destroyed houses is a crown of thorns that stands for martyrdom; to the right of the crown is a security feature – a colored composition consisting of a guilder rose and an anti-tank hedgehog. The back of the note also features the legend “ПАМЯТАЄМО! НЕ ПРОБАЧИМО! НІКОЛИ!” (We will not forget! We will not forgive! Never!) (under the crown of thorns), while also depicting a kind of illusion – stylized poppies that stand for bloody bullet wounds." The banknote was designed by one of the NBU's go to artists, Volodymyr Taran. In May of 2022 the commemorative banknote was scheduled for release in December of that year but was delayed/pushed back to February of 2023, presumably due to production/design difficulties brought on by the war and to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the Russian invasion. Also, if you didn't know already, the NBU's next commemorative note is currently scheduled for release in December of '23, entitled "Long Live Ukraine". I expect that the commemorative ₴20 banknote in December will be a completely new design as well. With a print run of 300k I wouldn't call this note scarce but being a completely new design, with powerful imagery and context, I expect this note to be in high demand, as opposed to the ₴500 Skovoroda commemorative note issued in December of 2022 which was comprised of 2021 dated notes with the previous Governor's signature and OVI overprint in the form of the festival logo. With a much smaller run of 50k the (2022) commemorative Skovoroda notes are still readily available at reasonable prices. The "WE WILL NOT FORGET! WE WILL NOT FORGIVE!" commemorative notes are currently available as various online selling platforms in the $20 range, not including shipping, but can be found for much more reasonable prices if dealing direct with Ukrainian sellers. Prices have climbed since the first listings were posted on the 23rd. Who's Buying? The new commemorative banknote measures in at 80 x 165mm making it the largest banknote issued by the NBU, both length and width, since Ukraine declared its independence from the Soviet Union in 1991. The previous "largest" banknote was the circulating ₴1000 with dimensions of 75 x 160mm. This is also the first vertically oriented banknote issued by the NBU in modern times, with the only other vertically oriented notes being the postage-stamp currency of 1918, the Shahiv. In 2020 the NBU released a souvenir (fantasy) note celebrating the first astronaut of Independent Ukraine, Leonid Kadeniuk. The souvenir was not intended for circulation and carried no value, but it was vertically oriented and measured 80 x 170mm, making it slightly larger than the new commemorative, with similar orientation. The NBU also released a test note in 2008, horizontally oriented with no value, that measured in at a whopping 95 x 180mm making it the largest "note" the NBU has released in modern times.