Fenntucky Mike

Gotta love that Ukrainian Hryvnia. I've seen this same type note used by PMG for samples given at other shows. Did you go to HICC? Here's the same type note used for a sample in an older Gen 3 holder. It's for sale on Ebay if you're interested.

Maybe the file type was one that won't work, .jpg, .tiff, gif. files all seem to work best for me, and I always have to shrink down the image to reduce the file size. Try it again, sometimes this site is tempermental.

+43 = 5,560 20 Hryven +11 50 Hryven +5 100 Hryven +2 200 Hryven +3 500 Hryven +5 1000 Hryven +2 1 Hryvnia +2 25 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 100 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +7 1,000,000 Karbovantsiv +1 2,000,000 Karbovantsiv +1 2 Karbowanez +1

+58 = 5,517 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +2 20 Hryven +5 50 Hryven +3 100 Hryven +4 500 Hryven +5 25 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 100 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +32 5 Karbowanez +1 10 Karbowanez +2

Nice. I like that Nicaraguan poly note.

It's worth having authenticated in my opinion, just so people know it's real, and the best wat to determine value is by researching recent auction sales of notes with similar errors. Stack's, Heritage, ebay, etc., etc., etc,... PMG won't list error pricing and they don't differentiate between notes and error notes in the Pop Report, not that I've ever seen anyway.

It's call and offset printing error, it happens when there is no paper between the printing plate and impression cylinder, ink is transferred from the plate to the cylinder then the ink on the cylinder will transfer to the opposite side of the next several sheets until the ink is gone. Value depends on how visible and large the area affected is, your note has a strong transfer but only about 2/3's of the design was transferred. I'd say it could fetch in the $1-$2,000 range, maybe a little more. Nice find.

I don't know what the note is graded now but if you "clean" the note it will almost certainly be returned as "cleaned", and worst case they return the note in a body bag. My recommendation is to leave the note alone! It won't grade higher because it was "cleaned", it will probably be graded more harshly with additional notations on it being cleaned, it will be less desirable to collectors, and decrease the value of the note.

Nice!

+25 = 5,459 5 Chervontsiv +1 2 Hryven +3 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +2 20 Hryven +8 50 Hryven +2 100 Hryven +2 200 Hryven +1 500 Hryven -1 100 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +4 2 Karbowanez +1

+115 = 5,435 2 Hryven +3 5 Hryven +8 10 Hryven +15 20 Hryven +21 50 Hryven +5 100 Hryven +15 200 Hryven +6 500 Hryven +3 1000 Hryven +1 2000 Hryven +8 2 Hryvni +1 1 Hryvnia +5 1 Karbovanets +1 10 Karbovantsiv +3 100 Karbovantsiv +3 1000 Karbovantsiv +3 5000 Karbovantsiv +2 10,000 Karbovantsiv +2 1 Karbowanez +1 20 Karbowanez +3 100 Karbowanez +1 100,000 Karbovantsiv +1 20,000 Karbovantsiv +2 50,000 Karbovantsiv +1 1,050,000 Karbovantsiv +1

Possible obstructed printing but seeing as the color loss stops/stars at the center fold it seems more likely that the underprint faded or was lost due to circulation. Regardless, if an actual error, the note would only be worth face value or slightly above due to the condition.

At least they gave you an estimate, but I'd still try to find some comps before listing on ebay. Good luck!

+36 = 5,320 2 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +3 20 Hryven +5 50 Hryven +3 100 Hryven +3 200 Hryven +2 500 Hryven +1 1 Hryvnia +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 1000 Karbovantsiv +3 5000 Karbovantsiv +1 1,000,000 Karbovantsiv +1 2,000,000 Karbovantsiv +1 1 Karbowanez +1 5 Karbowanez +1 20 Karbowanez +4 100 Karbowanez +4

Your best bet would be to check recent auction sales on sites like HA, SB, Ebay, etc..

s = specimen, usually bpe = back plate error, I believe SOI = Super Orlof Intaglio, a printing press There is no "legend key" that I know of to decipher these but it's easy enough to go to a site like Heritage Auctions and type in the Fr. 1908 and browse through to try and find a match for Fr. 1908-Hbpe, for example, and read the descriptions. The reference Paper Money of the United States should also have the corresponding Fr. # and probably a short description of what they mean.

The big head $100 is Fr 2178-A, the series 2013 * is Fr 2188-B*, neither are worth submitting IMO. The fractional is Fr 1265 and is probably not worth the cost of sending in either. It depends on why you want to submit them, if it's just "because" or for whatever reason, and you don't care about recouping the cost then cool, if to increase their value above and beyond the grading fees then probably not so much. Paper Money of the United States covers most if not all U.S. notes issued by the government, if you were going to purchase a reference for U.S. currency I'd start with that.

I'm wondering if the 5 Chervontsiv will receive any bids? That is a pretty high starting price. Definitely been the dog days of summer for me, as far as my collections go.

Ha! I've already started down that path, way ahead of you. A shortly held theory of mine, shared by many no doubt, is that people have been priced out of coins and migrated over to notes. Overall notes are going strong for the most part but I've noticed some softening in the coin market where I collect. I expect a slow downward trend for both notes and coins is on the horizon. This seems to be the case for some notes/countries, quality issued notes are of limited supply and currently being held in collections, and sellers turning to the next best, available, thing. The BB only catalogs moderns correct? At least that's the case for Ukraine as far as I know, and if true for all countries the BB would only be a viable replacement for moderns. I've read Owen mention once or twice that they were in contact with PMG but that was awhile ago, I'm not sure if any headway is being made but I hope so. I think one of the possible stumbling blocks is all of the graded notes by PMG that have "mechanical errors" or that wouldn't align with the BB system. The PMG registry is a reflection of what has been graded, mechanical error or not, and to draw a line in the sand and start labeling some notes differently than the have been in the past because the P# doesn't align with the BB#, or the P# being wrong, etc. would completely screw up the registries even more than they are currently. I have a feeling that is a topic of discussion.

+21 = 5,284 5 Hryven +1 20 Hryven +15 200 Hryven +1 2000 Hryven +1 1 Hryvnia +2 100 Karbovantsiv +1 Disappointing news on the submission front yesterday, more on that later.

Welcome to the Forum, For U.S. notes PMG would want the Friedberg # (Fr.) found in the reference Paper Money of the United States, for world notes the Pick # found in the Standard Catalog of World Paper Money. If you don't have either reference you can usually find the #'s on the labels of notes graded by a TPG. The # you write down doesn't necessarily have to be correct, as they usually accept something "in the neighborhood" but it shouldn't be to hard to find the correct #'s. If you post picks, front and back, of the notes I could take a look when I have time. Good luck.

Cambodia, 500 Riels, (ND '58-70) P# 14d

There have been some big-time rarities in Ukrainian notes hitting the auction block recently, almost all specimens, and prices have been through the roof! It's killing me that I can't splurge on one or two of these but unfortunately most are out of my price range. Also, as seems to be the norm unfortunately, I disagree with how some of these notes were labeled and the Pick #'s assigned to them, but that didn't seem to dissuade would-be bidders. Anyway, here are a few of the highlights. Four seldom seen specimen notes with De La Rue overprint, specimen numbers and printer's annotations, all were previously mounted. I suspect that all similar Ukrainian specimen notes with De La Rue overprint will have been mounted as I believe that was how they were presented. These are some rarities, gorgeous notes, and bidding proved strong for all four. All prices are in USD and are the hammer or high bid price only, taxes, BP, shipping, etc. not included. The first two notes were listed and sold separately, when those auctions concluded the next two were listed, also separately. $1,775.00 (PMG, 63) $1,600.00 (PMG, 63) $2,300.00 (PMG, 64) $2,550.00 (PMG, 64) Next are more Color Trials, and Printer's Designs. The seller seems to have an unlimited supply of these, I'm hoping if they do list more, I'll have an opportunity to pick one up. PMG did label a few of these as "Unlisted Pick" varieties, which I would they rather do than incorrectly label them. It's too bad that Krause went tits up and left this huge void in identifying notes, the Banknote Book seems to keep up but PMG does not currently utilize BB numbers, maybe someday they will as the current state of things is not great. Back to the notes! $1,125.00 (PMG, 66 EPQ) $1,075.00 (PMG, 65 EPQ) $900.00 (PMG, 66 EPQ) $860.00 (PMG, 66 EPQ) $788.00 (PMG, 66 EPQ) $720.00 (PMG, 66 EPQ) $721.00 (PMG, 65 EPQ) $650.00 (PMG, 67 EPQ) There are also a few classic notes currently up for auction. Another 2 Karbowanez with a starting price of $1,480.00 And last but not least we have an über rare 5 Chervontsiv note with a starting price of $9,535.00, the auction ends Oct 3. Overall, quality available notes seem to be drying up as the last few auctions had either very slim pickings and/or common moderns add to fill up the auction. I realize that as my collection becomes larger and more complete there will be fewer notes that I would want to acquire, leaving only "key" notes for me to find. Not acquiring new notes is I suppose it's a blessing in disguise as I'll be able to increase my funds and possibly pick up a few of the rarer notes, but not adding some Ukrainian notes is killing me and to it the frustration of having to watch these beauties pass by on my computer screen. At least I was able to pull images and information for all of them from the auction listings and add it to my records. In the meantime, I've been picking up a few low-cost notes from other countries to fill the void and hopefully the timing will be right in the near future for the key notes.

Lots of interesting things going on this week in the pop report. If the Pop Report is correct there have been 223 grading events for the 2023 commemorative 20 Hryven banknote, way more supply than demand IMO for this note, still no 70s and only two 69s and forty 68s. Another P#35c was recorded in the Pop Report, bringing the total to five (35c was not included in the last SCWPM volume). It's also not looking good for my attempt to get the perforated and red-overprint 50 & 100 Hryven specimen banknotes of 1992 assigned separate Pick #'s as opposed to sharing the same as I see my submission in the Pop Report now and it looks like they lumped them together. Seems pretty ridiculous to continue to do so but I expect it's an attempt to save face as there are several of each variety currently in PMG holders with identical P#'s, or maybe there is a more legitimate reason that I don't know about. +115 = 5,263 2 Hryven +2 5 Hryven +1 10 Hryven +1 20 Hryven +58 50 Hryven +7 100 Hryven +7 200 Hryven +2 500 Hryven +10 1000 Hryven +1 1 Hryvnia +1 10 Karbovantsiv +1 50 Karbovantsiv +1 100 Karbovantsiv +5 1000 Karbovantsiv +13 10,000 Karbovantsiv +1 2 Karbowanez -1 5 Karbowanez +1 10 Karbowanez +2 20 Karbowanez +1 200 Karbovantsiv +1

I don't have any "changeover" notes in my collection, not something I really pay attention to but they are definitely neat. It seems several people collect these based on what I've seen over the years. There are a lot of different types of "changeover" notes, some rare some fairly common. Those would look really good in the PMG two note holder, or displayed together.