Fenntucky Mike

Lookout @Bonezdogg here I come, sorry @Revenant but there is a new head of the table. 

See my latest Journal entry for details on this note.

To tie into my journal entry.

Just noticed this thread,

8 hours ago, Scooter 1 said:

Fashionably late to the party … since you’re at 158 posts now.   

Better late than never, thanks.

I'm stealing this from Just Bob on the NGC side but who cares. It's my 100th post dang it!

Let's see if we can get more than two people.

1 hour ago, Revenant said:

They both seem to have the lower transmittance that is the hallmark (IMO) of the old gen, green tint holders...

Not sample holders, but the following two images where made at basically the same time using the same imaging method (cheap scanner) and the old gen holder image is just so much darker.

I was pretty sure but it was a little harder to tell on the Philippine note. So glad they were able to improve the holder and get rid of the tint.

On 8/29/2020 at 11:55 AM, Revenant said:

I think they called the new one a gen-4 holder.

I do remember PMG launching the "Gen 4" earlier this year but it seems like it was more of a label and sticker (hologram) change than anything. I'm not sure if the holder is Gen 4 or if the label is, or both?  https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/article/8221/new-pmg-label-and-holder/

The Gen 3 was launched in late March of 2016  https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/article/5201/PMG-Launches-New-Clearer-Holder/ 

The Gen 2 was launched back on January 3, 2011 https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/article/1918/Second-Generation-Holder/ 

Regardless, they still have a description of the PMG holder (with an image of a holder with the new label) listing the current holder/label as "Introduced in 2016, the third-generation PMG holder" which if correct would mean the current holder is still Gen 3 and the label is Gen 4? Maybe? 

Cool notes everyone.

Are both of those the green tinted holders?

The groundswell is building...

ddr70, get ready to dig that note out in three months. At this pace that's about when you'll hit the 5 likes mark. Glad you didn't put a time limit on this.

Dig it out! Dig it out!

No image available on Verify PMG Certification, well done.

Trivia contest or the like could be fun around here, guess the grade, real or fake, etc. Just for bragging rights and the education. 

13 hours ago, Revenant said:

My problem in a nutshell is I want to add a P-88e but the slot is only set up to accept P-88a and P-88b.

You can type your Cert # into that slot, you will get a not valid for slot message, PMG will see that you tried to enter a Cert # review it and then if valid the'll add that Pick # to the slot along with your note. Usually only takes 24hrs for them to add your note and they'll send you a confirmation email when it's done. See Ali's response to me further up the string.

On 4/9/2020 at 6:34 PM, Ali E. said:

You will need to go to PMG cert. verification (on PMGnotes.com) and compare the denominations, dates and banks of your notes to what sets and slots already live in existing PMG Registry sets. Then you will need to enter your note(s) into a slot that looks similar to the description on your personal note. You will need to follow the NOT VALID FOR SLOT process, as you normally do.

LOL, I just did this again for one of my sets a few minutes ago.

I'd get the 8/8 graded or just keep it in a nice holder like you already have and keep it for my own collection. The only other fancy serial numbers I think you can have with the first five digits being the same (8) are Rotators. Keep researching the S#'s and the notes in general, get a good (realistic) idea of what the value is, and maybe you'll stumble on to something with the Lucky numbers and/or Fancy serial numbers as well. Depending on what you think the other notes are worth, I'd think about not grading and just going the eBay route.

Good Luck.

So the question I would have is, would these notes (specifically the 6/8's and 5/8's with lucky number combinations) have a higher hammer price at an auction held in the Asian market or U.S.? Or does it really even matter in this day and age, as long as the auction is well advertised. The 8/8 gets graded the 7/8's probably get graded as well. I see 7/8's (7 of 8 numbers the same not necessarily 8's) selling on eBay (in lower denominations) both graded and raw for between $150-300

7 hours ago, Luckyjeff said:

I've contacted Stacks Bowers about auctioning off my bills but I have a pretty good feeling that they'd struggle with good Asian combinations.

I wouldn't think they would struggle, or that any of the big auction houses would necessarily struggle. If they did I'm sure they'd figure it out, they want to optimize the hammer price as much as you. What I would be looking for is the next available major Asian auction that I could cosign to, that's assuming your notes carry a higher premium due to the serial number combinations in the Asian market. Stack's Bowers is holding an auction for the Hong Kong Coin Show later this month, probably to late to hit that one but I would be looking at the major auction houses for a similar show. . A good auction house should be able to point you in the right direction.

7 hours ago, Luckyjeff said:

Another big challenge is figuring out WHICH notes to professionally grade.

Stack's Bowers is offering free grading to all coins and notes cosigned to them, until they hit $1 Million in grading fees.

Good find and recognizing the potential by the way. I probably would have not noticed the serial numbers at the time and just stuffed the notes in my pocket and walked away.

If it was me I'd save at least one for liar's poker, always a blast when someone shows a bill like that. Just be prepared to be called every name in the book after you show it and hopefully take everyone's money, at least if your circle of friends is like mine. 

1 hour ago, 公众号：PMG收藏圈 said:

but here in China, SN Got so riduculus with valuation that people got special name for 666/888 or 6666/8888 that they are called LION NUMBER or LEOPARD NUMBER

these numbers got prices exploding.

Interesting, I hadn't heard of this. Is the premium for the serial number combinations only tied to Chinese notes or do people in China pay a premium for notes with those numbers no matter the country?

Ouch!

If that's the price difference from a 65 to 64 your friend may want to give it a third try.

Those are the risks you take when playing the resubmission game, don't think I would have risked it at those odds. What would the note be worth if it graded 66 or what would the increase in value have been?

13 hours ago, Ali E. said:

Hello, Mike, and thanks for the interest.

You will need to go to PMG cert. verification (on PMGnotes.com) and compare the denominations, dates and banks of your notes to what sets and slots already live in existing PMG Registry sets. Then you will need to enter your note(s) into a slot that looks similar to the description on your personal note. You will need to follow the NOT VALID FOR SLOT process, as you normally do.

In this instance, I can tell you your note is eligible here: 

Category: Ukraine
Set Name: Ukraine Complete, 1917-Date, P1-Date
Slot Name: 100 Hryven 2018 Commemorative Issue

Please let us know if you need further assistance. Thank you.

Got it,

I'll shoehorn it into the closest matching slot next time, and follow NOT VALID FOR SLOT procedure.

Thanks for adding a slot to the set,

Hello,

Can a slot be added for Cert# 8065624-002 ?

Not sure what the process for notes with unlisted Pick#'s at time of grading is.

Thanks

Mike