Post Your Radars & Repeaters !! 0

[GoldFinger1969]

Thought a thread on these 2 kinds of fancy SNs might generate some interest.

I'll start off with one of each...a Radar AND Repeater !   Both recent....pretty high grades.  Got them back in 2019 or 2020.

 

[Fenntucky Mike]

Binary-Radar-Rotator

[GoldFinger1969]

I like the artwork on that note, Mike.

What country and who is the lady ?

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 3/5/2024 at 2:53 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

I like the artwork on that note, Mike.

I like it to, one of my favorite notes.

On 3/5/2024 at 2:53 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

What country and who is the lady ?

The note is from Ukraine and the portrait is of Lesya Ukrainka.

Here is a little write up, Journal Entry, I did on her and the use of her likeness on Ukrainian currency from a few years back.

 

[GoldFinger1969]

HA had a weekly currency auction last night.  Lots of modern radars and repeators, and I never heard of it before but something called a "rotator" which I will investigate further.

Prices seemed higher in general than a few years ago but every now and then you had a bill go for 2-3x the prices of others.  Could be a rarer block or just the composition of the fancy SN's -- tough for me to tell.

This one went for $456 (w/bp):

https://currency.ha.com/itm/small-size/federal-reserve-notes/fancy-radar-serial-number-77700777-fr-1921-a-1-1995-federal-reserve-note-pmg-gem-uncirculated-65-epq/a/142410-81370.s

They like to package them in twos (2 bills auctioned at the same time) so adjusting for that it appears that for common modern "fancy" SN's the prices have about DOUBLED in the last 4-5 years.  My own records indicate I was buying a bunch of Quads, Repeaters, and Radars for $35-$50 (for 1 bill) and the cheapest I saw last night for a pair was $89 with most going for about $125 for a pair.

[TheRedStream]

This is my only one I have.

[GoldFinger1969]

I take it you found it, TRS ? 

It's tough to get a special note -- let alone in top condition (EF quality, 40 or above) -- unless it's certified and you get it from another collector via LCS, auction, coin show, etc .

[Fenntucky Mike]

[TheRedStream]

Yes Goldfinger, I found that dollar in my change one day. It was what got me into collecting.

[Fenntucky Mike]

A trifecta. 

[GoldFinger1969]

Double Quad:  Another DQ repeater.  Mathematically, there have to be plenty of these in any new (or past) currency run...but folks pay up for them especially in high-grades. 

At least this dummy did. 

[Fenntucky Mike]

Radar

 

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 6/6/2024 at 9:32 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Double Quad:  Another DQ repeater.  Mathematically, there have to be plenty of these in any new (or past) currency run...but folks pay up for them especially in high-grades. 

At least this dummy did. 

A double quad can happen up to 72, or 81 times in a print run for modern notes, I think. I can't remember. They are fairly rare actually compared to other fancy numbers.

How is this note a repeater?

[GoldFinger1969]

On 6/7/2024 at 8:42 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

A double quad can happen up to 72, or 81 times in a print run for modern notes, I think. I can't remember. They are fairly rare actually compared to other fancy numbers.  How is this note a repeater?

Isn't a double quad a repeater ?  Maybe I got confused.

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 6/7/2024 at 10:41 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Isn't a double quad a repeater ?  Maybe I got confused.

Not to my way of thinking. A repeater is a serial number with at least two different numbers repeating in sequence at least twice and they need to repeat completely through the entire serial number, no partials. 

Here is PMG's definition. 

Repeater Serial Number

This serial number will repeat. The minimum number of digits that need to repeat is two (IE: 121212). Likewise, the minimum times the sequence needs to repeat is two (IE: 12341234).

Edited June 7, 2024 by Fenntucky Mike

[GoldFinger1969]

Yup, for some reason I thought the 5's and 7's repeating meant it was a repeater. 

Have to put it in the Unique Serial Number Thread or something like that -- sorry folks, mea culpa. 

[TheRedStream]

Found this repeater last week. It isn't in the best shape.

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 6/8/2024 at 12:13 PM, TheRedStream said:

Found this repeater last week. It isn't in the best shape.

Nice! 

[GoldFinger1969]

Going back to my misnamed bill above....how come Double Quad isn't on the label ?  I thought I had seen it on others but maybe not ?

I realize it is a modern and maybe Double Quads are common so the value is minimal...but it clearly jumps out at you (2 groups of 4 for the SN)...so why not put it on the label ?  

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 1/29/2025 at 10:03 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Going back to my misnamed bill above....how come Double Quad isn't on the label ?  I thought I had seen it on others but maybe not ?

I don't believe it is considered a fancy number by PMG, but it is in an older generation holder so maybe they've changed their mind since. I don't remember ever seeing double quad called out on a label but maybe.

On 1/29/2025 at 10:03 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

I realize it is a modern and maybe Double Quads are common so the value is minimal...but it clearly jumps out at you (2 groups of 4 for the SN)

Not sure how rare it is compared to other fancy numbers, I remember seeing a chart with the the percentages, from what I remember it's fairly rare. 

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...so why not put it on the label ?  

Edit:

Found it.

Edited January 29 by Fenntucky Mike

[GoldFinger1969]

Found this, too.  Will be checking to see prices of Radars and Repeaters (old and modern) and see if they have moved up in price.

They used to lots of 2-fers -- selling 2 bills like that (or more) in a package -- but with the price rising a bit to mask fees, taxes, S&H...my cursory glances the last few weeks seem to show alot fewer than 5 years ago so maybe the prices are higher now and they can sell more stuff solo.

Edited January 30 by GoldFinger1969