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Rec'd at PMG, the wait begins.

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ddr70

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I just sent a good chunk of my NBNs to PMG to grade.  The post office sure took it's time, but got my package there in 8 days instead of 4.  PMG listed as received about a week after it arrived in Sarasota.  

Here's one of the notes awaiting scrutiny.  I can't wait to add it to one of my series of 1882 collections here.  Connellsville, PA The First NB (E)2329 Radar Treasury SN on a $10 1882 VB Fr. 576 Tillman | Morgan SN 9076/T493394 pp F/118.  Love that SN especially on an early value back.

Chartered 4/8/1876, Liquidated 6/22/1928.  Assumed circulation of 4861, Yough NB of Connellsville which liquidated in 3/3/1913.  Bank officers' signatures are from (Geo W.) Stauffer, Cashier and E.T. Norton stamped in blue ink and remain legible, albeit light, to this day.  For 52 years, 3x10-20 sheets only and only a 193 of them VBs (SN 9001-9193).  Finding the $20 VB to go along with my $10 would be an awesome score!

1882 $10 VB Fr. 576 Connellsville, PA The First NB Ch. # (E)2329_F_Obv.jpg

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I definitely will post the note in its new holder.  It will be like Christmas Day/BDay/Return from Overseas assignment Day combined when my notes arrive home safely!  I'd be OK with a F15 grade.  Not going to be a lot of points, but it would be hard to beat all the things this note has going for it.  The folks in Western PA got a lot of use out this $10.  I was a bit reluctant to give my grade, but I'm comforted by the fact that no one from PMG seems to read these journals--and I kinda trust their grading process.

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The Economy submission went from Rec'd to awaiting grading to grades posted in a few days and the package is close to home, but not yet delivered.  Maybe tomorrow.  I'll likely be scanning this weekend and updating sets.  The Bulk submission which arrived essentially the same day as the economy is still in the Received purgatory.  S no update on the Atlanta Replacement.

The Connellsville, PA note graded VF 20, so 5 points better than I thought.  No EPQ.  But it has RADAR SN on the labellebal  ;0  Since sending my notes off for grading I picked up my 3rd $10 VB n The Commercial NB of Columbus, OH (2605).  It doesn't have Radar on the label, but check out the bank sheet number!

1882 Nat'l $10 VB Fr 577 Columbus, OH  The Commercial NB Ch. # (M)2605_Radar_SN17471_PMG20_Obv.jpg

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1 hour ago, ddr70 said:

The Connellsville, PA note graded VF 20, so 5 points better than I thought.  No EPQ.  But it has RADAR SN on the labellebal  ;0  Since sending my notes off for grading I picked up my 3rd $10 VB n The Commercial NB of Columbus, OH (2605).  It doesn't have Radar on the label, but check out the bank sheet number!

Glad it worked out for ya!

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On 8/15/2020 at 8:58 AM, ddr70 said:

I was a bit reluctant to give my grade, but I'm comforted by the fact that no one from PMG seems to read these journals--and I kinda trust their grading process.

Awesome! glad I didn't jinx you on the grade.

 

19 hours ago, ddr70 said:

check out the bank sheet number!

LOL, nice find.

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First week of November is gone and my bulk submission STILL hasn't moved out of received.  I put the package in the mail in July.  I'm hopeful I get the package by Thanksgiving now.  

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23 Dec. and my notes just moved into Grading.  Maybe I'll have grades before the New Year and if the Post Office cooperates I might see my notes again before Inauguration Day.  I see PMG updated their turnaround times for Bulk submissions to 82 days from 62 days.  I wish I had mine graded in 82 days. Might as well go with 6 months if you're lucky as a turn around time.  They did let me add a variety plus to my $20 Atlanta Ty. 1 replacement note which I do appreciate.  I got the charge on my credit card well before the notes moved out of purgatory (i.e. received).  There are 7 radars and a repeater in there and I wonder if I'll get them noted on the holder.  At least those don't cost extra.  

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You need a 2ID short-timers calendar to countdown to receiving your notes B|.   I was in the Warrior Division twice and a third time in 6th CAV (an Eighth US Army unit).  Nice to see the 2ID crest!

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I created a signature set for my national bank notes that are replacements.  The Atlanta $20 is there now in a PMG 25 holder.  It sports non-standard C's in the serial number, diagnostic for type 1 replacements.  The SN also displays the typical rubber-stamped appearance.  sig.jpg

You'll also find my PMG-graded large size NBN and a Fr. 228R 1899 $1 Silver Certificate Note Pre-Star Replacement PMG 35 SN R15745419 pp C4968/2519.

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On 3/7/2021 at 8:33 AM, ddr70 said:

You need a 2ID short-timers calendar to countdown to receiving your notes B|.   I was in the Warrior Division twice and a third time in 6th CAV (an Eighth US Army unit).  Nice to see the 2ID crest!

My bulk submission has seen movement, now "Scheduled For Grading", I think I may qualify to be called a "two digit midget" on my countdown calendar. Nice to have a fellow Warrior on board, not to many people recognize the crest but I always thought it was a pretty cool design. I was at Camp Casey 76 to 77.

I collect large size Wisconsin Nationals and some US Large size type notes.

One of my "Home Town" notes.

Racine_Note.jpg

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I'll post my Series 1902 DB Milwaukee (2715) replacement--it's in QC now, so I ought to have a grade this week!!  It will be here sig.jpg

as well as in a signature set on replacements. NOTE:  There's a nice Milwaukee radar already in my Wisconsin Type set on Charter 6853. I've bid on a few notes from Racine--never won any.  Thanks for sharing!

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I like your idea of a 1902 Type Set from Wisconsin:banana:  I'm going to have to look into how to to build a type set.

I noticed your $10PB in your Wisconsin set is from Cincinnati? 

I will keep an eye out for for your posting of the (2715) replacement note. My bulk submission is is now in QC also so I should see some grades soon.

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I fill in slots with other state's notes while I search on.  But usually they are neat notes!!  I got my grades back and added the replacement, but PMG has to approve use of an Fr. xxxR (R is for Replacement) in and Fr. xxx slot.  It just takes an admin to make the addition.  Here's that  note.

Nat'l $20 1902 DB Fr. 642 Milwaukee, WI The First NB Ch. # (M)2715_REPLACEMENT_PMG25_Obv.JPG

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Trying to figure out the attaching of pictures, this note is from Charter 64, same bank as Charter 2715, same signatures. It is an interesting story on how this bank went from Charter 64 to 2715 and then back to 64.

MILWAUKEE_CH64_$20DB_SN49516_FRONT_1.jpg

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I got to checking my notes for "Radar" serial numbers thanks to ddr70 and found only one that was kind of interesting.

GREEN_BAY_CH4783_$20PB_SN23740_FRONT_1.jpg

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5 hours ago, 2IDMP said:

I got to checking my notes for "Radar" serial numbers thanks to ddr70 and found only one that was kind of interesting.

 

Like the psychedelic colors.

6 hours ago, 2IDMP said:

It is an interesting story on how this bank went from Charter 64 to 2715 and then back to 64.

:popcorn:

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1 hour ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

Like the psychedelic colors.

:popcorn:

I think my scanner is causing the psychedelic "anti counterfeiting" rainbow toning surrounding the portraits. (shrug)

 

The story behind the  same banks having different charter numbers:

As told by Tom Snyder;

The first national bank chartered in the state of Wisconsin was the Farmers and millers Bank of Milwaukee. Its president at the time of the national bank proposal was Edward D. Holton, H.H. Camp was the cashier. They received charter number 64 under the name of the First National Bank of Milwaukee. Their bank notes continued to be issued and reissued and in April 1882 their charter expired some four months before legislation to re-charter the banks for a second 20-year period was completed. This and the other early banks had no choice but to wind up their business under the old charter and reapply for a new charter as a completely new organization.

The First National Bank of Milwaukee now received a new-20 year charter as number 2715. In 1902, the 20-year re-chartering procedure was in place. Following the practice of some eastern banks and for prestige reasons, in 1911 the bank requested of Congress and received an act reinstating its original charter number of 64.

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On 3/30/2021 at 12:19 PM, 2IDMP said:

I got to checking my notes for "Radar" serial numbers thanks to ddr70 and found only one that was kind of interesting.

GREEN_BAY_CH4783_$20PB_SN23740_FRONT_1.jpg

That is fantastic!  Love it.  Radars on the treasury SNs are tough to come by.  I have a Green Bay $5 DB on The Citizens NB Ch. # (M)3884 Fr. 592 in PMG 35.  These two would go nicely together :-)

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The wait continues as I have now resorted to sending in my notes in batches of ten, one batch per month. I figured this would give me something to look forward to every month as it is always a treat to get a box in the mail from PMG.

This Oconto note was one of the first notes I had gotten some 30 years ago, one of the elder statesman in the hobby at the time learned of my interest in Wisconsin notes and offered up this note for little over face value. I just got it back from PMG and to my surprise look how PMG attributes the note.

:whatthe:

1283832084_OCONTO_CH3541_10PB_SN5625_FRONT_1.thumb.jpg.48dc44db8333c4b2cb3af40f258d3c33.jpg

 

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