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Yes my collection interest is English notes. It is helpful getting other Collectors experience on grading. So that I can establish which notes to submit for grading.

I purchased a UV Banknote detector. which unfortunately didn’t provide any answers as to why my T16 was graded PMG 45. On the plus side it does clearly show the varnish on my Elizabeth Fry £5 Notes, making it much easier to distinguish a B393 Full Halo from a B395 Cut Halo.

Thanks very much, you have provided a lot of detailed information that helps a lot in understanding how the grading process works. This will be useful in considering what notes to submit in the future.

Thanks very much for the additional information it's been very helpful. Can I ask a couple more questions you might be able to help with? Do you know when they tend to have graders notes? I would have thought that below PMG 55 they would have notes as the grade can be based on multiple flaws? I was also wondering how they arrive at a consensus for a note, when multiple professionals examine each note to ensure accuracy and consistency? With regards embossing, are all banknotes embossed as there seems to be a lack of information available on what embossing is included on different notes? And is the only wat to check the embossing is by touch?

I did not mention an item! I asked if grading notes were available?

I agree it is a lovely looking note and I was expecting a high grade. The two vertical lines either side of the security thread are common for white fivers. I have the same note that (type difference due to serial number) shows this nicely – 2164126-007 PMG 66 EPQ. I recently had a note regraded to 65 EPQ with a note added “As Made Indentation”, but this only cost £12 so I was happy to take the chance that they notice that the note did not have a fold. As for the EPQ designation, I don’t believe they always get this right. I have a brand new King Charles £5 (398a) that was graded PMG 64 even though it has just been released. There are 442 notes in the PMG register and only this one has not an EPQ designation! As it is a low value note it doesn’t matter so much, although I will follow it up with PMG at some point, to try an understand how they determine if a note has been pressed.

I used side-lighting to check all my notes before sending them in, and they have in the past been within a grade either side of what I expected/purchased at. That is why I was so surprised by the grades, and asked customer services if these could be reviewed, as I am reluctant to pay out £100 for regrading without understanding what flaws they found. I had no luck with my request, and have asked if I can get hold of the grading notes before deciding what to do next. I have now purchased a UV light having read your posts, but from your reply above, I don’t have much hope that it will provide any answers.

Thanks for your reply. I thought both the notes were UNC, but I did examine then under normal lighting. I have just been reading your posts on using UV lights and was wondering if this might show up some flaws that were missed? You should be able to see the notes on PMG site. 2165354-017 and 2165354-002. I have not attached these to my sets yet.

This set starts with p328 Catterns £5. Should it have started from 1928 with the Series A Britannia note p320a Mahon £5? Thanks David

I recently received back a submission that showed significant variances from the purchased grades. The notes were acquired from Noonan’s and London Coins Auction Houses in Uncirculated condition, but were both graded PMG 45. Has anyone else encountered such significant grading variances? Thanks David

I know general descriptions of the PMG grades are available on the website, but are specific grading notes available showing the flaws in notes that result in these grades? Thanks David

Any update on this query?

The Registry has two entries for the B249A (1940-48), the first 367b, the second 367c. Can you please advise me what the difference is between the two? If the difference is due to them having different serial note ranges, I was also wondering why they would be treated differently to 363f where the B225A and B226A with different serial note ranges have only one slot entry? I was also curios as to why there was a slot 363g (B238A ND(1928-41) when the registry already had a slot 363h (B238-239A ND(1934-39) ? The first entry being even more curios as Peppiatt was Chief Cashier from 1934-1949 with Mahon being the Cashier in 1928. Thanks

Both of these slots have the description B260 ND (1948-49) and refer to a Peppiatt fourth period Green threaded £1. The sequence of these notes is: Peppiatt 369a (B260 1948-49) Beale 369b (B268 1949-55) Obrien 369c (B273 1955-60) I therefore believe the 369d slot to be an error. If you agree, can this be corrected as this is currently showing in my Bank oy England 1902-date including varieties set. Thanks

The Registry has two entries for the B249A (1940-48), the first 367b, the second 367c. Can you please advise me what the difference is between the two? If the difference is due to them having different serial note ranges, I was also wondering why they would be treated differently to 363f where the B225A and B226A with different serial note ranges have only one slot entry? I was also curios as to why there was a slot 363g (B238A ND(1928-41) when the registry already had a slot 363h (B238-239A ND(1934-39) ? The first entry being even more curios as Peppiatt was Chief Cashier from 1934-1949 with Mahon being the Cashier in 1928. Thanks

I have been looking at upgrading my membership before my next submission, and the site is showing the cost of doing so to be $279. Is no allowance given for the Premium membership of $139 I have already paid? Also when submitting notes I can pay in pounds sterling. Is their an option to pay my membership in pounds sterling, thus avoiding the US service fee that my bank charges on non-domestic transactions ? Thanks

I have been looking at the GB Submission form to see if their is an appropriate tier for low value (under £100) pre 1957 Banknotes. The two alternatives available are Economy at a cost of £30 (values up to £750) or Bulk at £17 ( requiring 50 notes minimum). As their are not many low value pre 1957 notes (unlike post 1957), and the cost of Economy can nearly equal the cost of the note in some cases, I have been reluctant to submit these notes. I was wondering if PMG had looked at this issue when setting up the tiers ? Thanks

Great Britain 1914-date one pound type set Is it possible to extend this set to include an additional slot for Henry Hase £1 p190 (2511323-045). The Registry has 26 of these notes recorded. Thanks David

Someone sent me the pages from the Pickford catalogue, but I can find no logic, as to why only some presentation packs have been included. I have also had no success in getting PMG to add additional slots to this set, for presentation packs that do not appear in the Pickford catalogue. If you have any information or views on this subject, I would be interested to hear them? Kind Regards David

Hi Billy, I am supportive of a "Bank of England 1928-present set", because it would be a more affordable set for new collectors to fully complete, as it exclude some of the more expensive Treasury and White Banknotes. I know from previously asking PMG for a replacement set, that they are reluctant to have new sets when there is sufficient representation in existing sets. Personally I think that more sets are better, as it increases the possibility to achieve full set coverage. In addition for some slots like p374, with 21 varieties from B281-B323, it's not possible to show examples of all varieties. It might however be that additional sets increases the workload for PMG, in having to synchronize slots across all sets. Maybe Ali can advise? Kind Regards David

Very pleased to see this update. As I come across issues in the Bank of England sets, I have notified PMG, and they have corrected them once verified. Kind Regards David

Is there a list of links between the CS references and the associated presentation pack references, as I don't have a Pickford catalogue? For example from the gallery I can see that HM Queen 70 Birthday, reference C120 is included under CS3

Hi Again, Can I request a new slot 382Aa (2164141-042) in Bank of England complete issue p303 to date? Thanks David

Hello, David. Thank you for your interest. The senior team has determined these notes have sufficient representation in the existing competitive sets. You may display all your replacement notes in a single set you have under this set type: All SetsGreat BritainBank Of England Complete Issues, P303-Date. In response to this reply, is it possible to suggest a quicker approach. At the moment I am having to ask for nearly every replacement note to be added to the Bank of England Complete issues P303-Date and I have a number of notes still to add? Thanks David

Treasury notes set 1914-1928 issues p346-p361 Two slots in this set, number 354 and 355, have no link to associated notes. How do I find out which notes these entries relate to? Two other slots numbers 352 and 353 link to Unissued notes. I am aware that experimental notes are not included in sets due to their lack of representation in the registry, but I wondering why Unissued notes were included?