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Why No Mexico - Revolutionary Sets?

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Iowa Silver Baron Bammer

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It seems to me before I retired back in 2013 that there were currency sets of both Mexico and Mexico - Revolutionary. I'm curious as why this happened? I have fondness for both and would really like to see the revolutionary sets back. I especially like Chihuahua's "dos caritas" notes. I'm going to try to attach a front and back scans of one of mine. I'd be pleased and excited to hear from any currency sets, especially ones with the control numbers. I see there are some revolutionary sets on the coin side, but none here. Oh, I still think the gentleman on the right looks like Captain Kangaroo. Does anyone else see it?

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Even though there are no available sets for the dos caritas notes there are quite a few Mexican specialized note sets, I imagine that if you requested an El Estado De Chihuahua set PMG would probably acquiesce. Especially if you had the graded notes to warrant a set like that. At any rate I agree with you in that PMG should add more Revolutionary sets, I only see one at the moment. 

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Oh, I still think the gentleman on the right looks like Captain Kangaroo. Does anyone else see it?

 hm Ha! He's just missing those sweet feathery sideburns but yeah! lol 

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On 4/5/2022 at 11:02 AM, Iowa Silver Baron Bammer said:

Fenntucky Mike, what revolutionary set do you see. It must be in with the regular Mexican sets?

Yep, it was with the regular Mexican sets, listed with other Specialized Issues. I believe the La Tesoreria de la Federacion, Guaymas, Law of 1913, S1058-S1061 is listed as a revolutionary issue in the SCWPM. If true, I think PMG would have no problem adding additional Revolutionary Sets. I also think that PMG should create an additional section for these sets, separate from the specialized issues but. (shrug) They probably would if you asked them.

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The bottom two sets are both popular Revolution issues so I would hope that there would be no reason that PMG would not be able to add a 'dos caritas' set. As I also have a few of these notes I would probably have suggested it but as this would probably be based on the Pick numbers (S527/M918 to S538/M928) and I don't have the full set yet :ph34r:

There are a number of other Revolution issues which would make good sets but I expect that many of the potential Revolution sets do not have enough slots or graded examples available, however the 'dos caritas' set would be fine. Having said that sets of control letters, stamps etc would probably be more suitable as a Signature Set and no doubt require submission of lots of notes for grading - this would be fantastic to see and an immense challenge with more than 1000 notes :).  Anyone know if this has ever been done at all as a single collection ???

I do agree that splitting the Specialised Issues into 'Bancos' and 'Revolution' would be appropriate if more sets are added.(thumbsu

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On 4/5/2022 at 4:00 PM, ColonialCoinsUK said:

Having said that sets of control letters, stamps etc would probably be more suitable as a Signature Set and no doubt require submission of lots of notes for grading - this would be fantastic to see and an immense challenge with more than 1000 notes :).

God, that would be one hell of a set! I'd love to see a comprehensive collection of dos caritas like that one day. :baiting:

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 I have fondness for both and would really like to see the revolutionary sets back.

That is one gorgeous note you posted. :luhv: If that note speaks to the quality of your collection I doff my cap to you sir. (worship)

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Mike, are you referring to the note I posted?? If you are, thank you very much for the kind words. I believe that note to be one of the notes that would be graded the lowest, as it is off center top to bottom and having been a pressman for 20 years, off centering bugs me. Also if you are, I may post some more to get some of your thoughts on grading. Since it's been a while since I've graded any, was curious if PMG's standards have changed. I have a fondness for ABNC's notes so may post a few more of those.Mexico60hR.thumb.jpg.294f7704792263ab42f60ac565fd95b0.jpgMexico60gF.thumb.jpg.635b7a737ec177abe2a3f31d82492f70.jpg

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Great 5 pesos note! That series is even more complex and extensive than the 'dos caritas' and apparently people do collect all the series/dates etc for all the denominations.:o

 

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On 4/5/2022 at 9:35 PM, Iowa Silver Baron Bammer said:

Mike, are you referring to the note I posted??

I was and the 5 pesos is even better! :golfclap:The centering on the 10, while not ideal, does not significantly detract from the note IMO but could drop the grade one full point. I think it does or at least a half. It's impossible to make a solid determination of a note's grade based solely on pictures, especially scans, but if I was to make a wager I'd say the 10 pesos is around a 65 and the 5 pesos 67. I'm usually on the conservative side when it comes to grading. I would say PMG seems to grade fairly when compared to my own standards, I rarely disagree with a grade given, some would say that they tend to grade loosely but I think most people agree that the grading standards are less stringent today as compared to 10 years ago. The same seems to be true for coins as well.

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Again, thanks for the kind words. I do try to pick the best notes I can that I can afford. Right now I really have to sell most of my non Mexican notes.That's my big problem, my eyes are bigger than my wallet. I may try do mexico, then all the way down thru South America. I may wind up doing a custom set of ABN notes as I have noticed some of the sets are HUGE, maybe 50 or 60 notes. But I'll keep plugging away as it's sure nice to be back.

 

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On 4/6/2022 at 12:06 PM, Iowa Silver Baron Bammer said:

That's my big problem, my eyes are bigger than my wallet.

Ditto. doh! 

On 4/6/2022 at 12:06 PM, Iowa Silver Baron Bammer said:

But I'll keep plugging away as it's sure nice to be back.

Welcome back! It's pretty dead here so I hope you don't get discouraged by the lack of bodies. I don't collect Mexican or Latin/South American banknotes but l am looking forward to seeing more of yours and learning a thing or two. (thumbsu

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