I have 1 69 EPQ in my 3rd dollar set. Its the highest grade I have.

I agree that a 70 set would be killer. It might be achievable on a short set like that. Someone might be working on it, but I don't think I could ever pay that and feel good about it short of winning the Mega millions.

7 hours ago, Revenant said:

I have 1 69 EPQ in my 3rd dollar set. Its the highest grade I have.

I agree that a 70 set would be killer. It might be achievable on a short set like that. Someone might be working on it, but I don't think I could ever pay that and feel good about it short of winning the Mega millions.

The second 70EPQ $2 sold for $399.99 (same price as the first $2 70) with one bid, significantly less than the $5. This has me scratching my head, I don't get why the $5 would sell for that much more. I feel like there is something going on with the sellers listings, seems like they are not showing up in searches very well.

Yep, I just can't bring myself to spend close to those amounts for a 70, at least for these notes. I have a hard time believing these (if a person was purchasing for an investment) will appreciate in value. If people are buying because they enjoy the notes and have that level of disposable income, then more power to them. Hope to see these in the registry some day.

1 hour ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

The second 70EPQ $2 sold for $399.99 (same price as the first $2 70) with one bid, significantly less than the $5. This has me scratching my head, I don't get why the $5 would sell for that much more. I feel like there is something going on with the sellers listings, seems like they are not showing up in searches very well.

Yep, I just can't bring myself to spend close to those amounts for a 70, at least for these notes. I have a hard time believing these (if a person was purchasing for an investment) will appreciate in value. If people are buying because they enjoy the notes and have that level of disposable income, then more power to them. Hope to see these in the registry some day.

Well, 1) The sellers should have never put these up for sale at the same time. That's immediately toxic for the selling price of something that depends on supposed rarity. 2) I've long thought that the $5 probably had two people put in sniper bids higher than they were expecting thinking there wouldn't be another bid that high. I would not be surprised if there was some buyers remorse there.

Values on all the 2nd and 3rd dollars are way down in the last 5 years. Only the 10,000 and the 20, 50 and 100 Trillion have held up in value. Even there, it's mostly the 100 Trillion.

I expect these will not hold up well overall once the newness fades. That's why I'm not paying much more than they'd cost to grade.

On 9/15/2020 at 7:50 AM, Revenant said:

Well, 1) The sellers should have never put these up for sale at the same time. That's immediately toxic for the selling price of something that depends on supposed rarity. 2) I've long thought that the $5 probably had two people put in sniper bids higher than they were expecting thinking there wouldn't be another bid that high. I would not be surprised if there was some buyers remorse there.

You've probably already seen this but another $5 70 EPQ is for sale on eBay, starting price $955.55. I'm watching it, let's see if it sells. I'm suspecting bigtime buyers remorse for the person who bought the last one. Apparently getting a 70 is no big deal with these notes. The new notes are still not listed in the population reports

If this note sells for that price or higher, then I have to conclude that there was something going on with the $2 listings. I don't know what else it could be, we'll see.

46 minutes ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

You've probably already seen this but another $5 70 EPQ is for sale on eBay, starting price $955.55. I'm watching it, let's see if it sells. I'm suspecting bigtime buyers remorse .... I don't know what else it could be, we'll see.

I hadn't seen it but I'm not surprised. I wouldn't say a 70 is NBD. If you look at all the 100 Trillions graded back in the day and the relatively small number of 70s, a 70 is still relatively rare and hard to get. Even so, I'd rather have a 68 or a 67 for a much much lower price.

I think its probably buyers remorse and hoping to get out of it without losing their but... I don't see it working out for them. The long term (5 year) trend on these is down for everything except maybe the 100 Trillion and I do not expect these to be investments. When the newness wears off these will probably be pulling $15-20 for 66 and 67 EPQs, just like the 3rd and 4th dollars. I'm only buying the new series now because the prices are reasonable enough and I want them / I'm impatient.

So you have me somewhat curious because at this point you have to have a $2 and $10 note in your possession but you aren't listing them yet. What you up to, Mike!?! Lol

21 hours ago, Revenant said:

So you have me somewhat curious because at this point you have to have a $2 and $10 note in your possession but you aren't listing them yet. What you up to, Mike!?! Lol

Ha. I'm just dragging my feet on getting them into the registry. I got kind of side tracked with Isle of Man coinage, so I've been spending my time on that. I'm kind of shifting back to banknotes again so I'll probably get the set started on PMG this week, maybe next. I have the $2, $5 and $10 in 68 I've been waiting for a $20 but just haven't seen one in the grade I'm looking for, I was kind of waiting to get the $20 so that, BAM, I could just post them all at once. We'll see, I just used my eBay Bucks to get the $5 Bond note.

33 minutes ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

I have the $2, $5 and $10 in 68 I've been waiting for a $20 but just haven't seen one in the grade I'm looking for, I was kind of waiting to get the $20 so that, BAM, I could just post them all at once. We'll see, I just used my eBay Bucks to get the $5 Bond note.

Sounds like you've been busy! If you pass me up when you do get around to posting them I'll look into giving you a hard time with it later. 😆

11 hours ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

I just used my eBay Bucks to get the $5 Bond note.

BTW, I'm pretty sure you bought something I was watching and considering. So this clearly means war! Later... After I'm done with other areas of focus and after I figure out what my wife bought for my birthday in 2 weeks. Lol 

10 hours ago, Revenant said:

BTW, I'm pretty sure you bought something I was watching and considering. So this clearly means war! Later... After I'm done with other areas of focus and after I figure out what my wife bought for my birthday in 2 weeks. Lol 

Ha, if it was that $20 66EPQ then yep that was me. I was looking at a 69 $5 and I just couldn't justify the price, even with my eBay Bucks to offset some of the cost. I figured it was better just to go with a lower grade and kill two birds with one stone, in the end I'm just looking for some quality examples. 

Like you said the odds of these increasing in value is not good. If there were like 25 registry sets I might have been willing to take a gamble on the 69 as an investment but right now it's only you and soon to be me.

7 hours ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

 I figured it was better just to go with a lower grade and kill two birds with one stone, in the end I'm just looking for some quality examples. 

Ha! You actually thought about it? I guess the bug has bit you bad with this set!  

7 hours ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

Like you said the odds of these increasing in value is not good. If there were like 25 registry sets I might have been willing to take a gamble on the 69 as an investment but right now it's only you and soon to be me.

The funny thing is, we're not the only ones buying these - that much is clear, because we aren't the ones dropping $400-1100 for 70EPQs. Zimbabwe notes are also among the most posted / discussed things in the Paper Money and Currency sub-reddits and there are even whole online stores dedicated to this - like "100trillion.com." It's not that I don't think there's interest in the notes. I just think the RBZ has printed enough of them to ensure that they never have any chance of being hard to find.  

4 hours ago, Revenant said:

Ha! You actually thought about it? I guess the bug has bit you bad with this set!  

You could say that. I thought about that 69 for quite awhile, I've been watching it for at least 3 weeks. I hated not having this set complete, all those notes popping up everyday and a pocket full of ebay bucks.... I couldn't take it any more , I wanted to finish the set. Now that I have those holes filled, I'll probably never think about that 69 again. Well not as much anyway.

48 minutes ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

You could say that. I thought about that 69 for quite awhile, I've been watching it for at least 3 weeks. I hated not having this set complete, all those notes popping up everyday and a pocket full of ebay bucks.... I couldn't take it any more , I wanted to finish the set. Now that I have those holes filled, I'll probably never think about that 69 again. Well not as much anyway.

Yeah. My big.problem right now is my lack of a P-3. My 4th dollar $5 note is just a 64 EPQ because its the only one I've seen up for sale and for about $20 it was worth just not having to look at that hole.

On 10/3/2020 at 12:27 PM, Revenant said:

I think its probably buyers remorse and hoping to get out of it without losing their but... I don't see it working out for them.

I think you're right, no takers on that $5 70EPQ at $995

I'd be feeling BIG TIME buyers remorse if I was the person who bought the first one. 

On 10/12/2020 at 4:19 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

I think you're right, no takers on that $5 70EPQ at $995

I'd be feeling BIG TIME buyers remorse if I was the person who bought the first one. 

Yup. That seller likes to put starting bids close to "fair value," as a way of making sure they don't lose their rear. I think the first one led them to over estimate the market value in a market where more than one exists. It's interesting that the "loser" on the first note didn't come back for the 2nd. Probably thanking their lucky stars the other person beat them.

I'll talk on this more later but I "won" the 1994 $2 P-1d in 68 EPQ Star - the highest grade example so far of the rarest P-1 type. It set me back $115 all told. I'm much happier with that than a 69 EPQ of the new $5 note or a 70 EPQ of the new $2 for 4 times as much.

11 hours ago, Revenant said:

I'll talk on this more later but I "won" the 1994 $2 P-1d in 68 EPQ Star - the highest grade example so far of the rarest P-1 type. It set me back $115 all told. I'm much happier with that than a 69 EPQ of the new $5 note or a 70 EPQ of the new $2 for 4 times as much.

Awesome!

Can't wait to read about it.

Oooooo....

There is a Ukraine P-121e listed on ebay starting bid $0.99 and it's a 70! To bad it's in a Legacy Holder, I'll still throw a few bid's it's way though. 

My only question is how low will it go... for? My guess is under $200

Ooops,

The P #121e auction ended. Final price with shipping, $45.50!