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A PMG Grading Kanban

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ddr70

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In Japanese, a Kanban (看板)  is a signboard or billboard, but in lean manufacturing a Kanban is a scheduling system.  Submissions at PMG start out in a Received Status.  Then your notes move into a dreaded state, "scheduled for grading"; a purgatory for notes. You you eagerly await a status of Quality Control--if you're like me, you start checking every day after about 30 days.  Where are my notes submitted last October?  Purgatory.  Quality control means the notes made it to the end of the queue and were graded by PMG.  In my experience, notes move fairly quickly to Finalized/Imaged/Shipped and you can actually see your grades posted.  So what's the point of a Kanban? On the production floor workers and managers can see how progress is going.  And if a customer shows up on the production line, they have an idea of when they might receive product.  At a show, a customer submitting notes has an idea when the notes will return graded.  I think we need a Kanban for grading!  The metric could be by tier (economy is my tier), 'how long (on average of course) is it taking from Scheduled for Grading to Quality Control.'  Then, let me get a bit crazy here, send me an email (or let me subscribe to receive an email) so I know when the note emerges from scheduled for grading.  (Note:  I did receive an email when I was charged back in October which is good to know.)  If there was a Kanban, I'd have an idea whether or not I might see my notes before the new year.  Speaking of the new year, here's what the Union NB of New Castle, PA was doing in 1906--getting it's charter from the Registry of the Treasury.  You can just make out the date above the president's signature (Dec. 31, 1906).  My $20 is currently in purgatory and not in my Large Type Nationals series 1902 set :-(.  You can see all the sets competing in Lg Type Nat'ls of 1902 here:  https://notes.www.collectors-society.com/registry/notes/public_sets.aspx?CategoryID=950&SetTypeID=3316  (my PA notes are #7)...  Happy holidays :-)!

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Luckily for me (a collector), I'm keeping these notes for a long time and I don't need the cash flow from them.  So, the wait just builds up my anticipation.  I get to compare my grading skills with team PMG's professional grading skills.  So all fun for me.  I do suggest improvements to PMG, like adding 'research' as a link to the PMG tab (so you could get to verify PMG number) here on collectors society, just like you find on the NGC and CGC tabs.  People say the government is slow, but PMG implementing this simple suggestion--slower!  The Kanban solution shouldn't be too hard especially if PMG already records the date/time a submission is received into a database, and again when processed into the 'scheduled for grading' stage and then date/time the submission enters QC.  Maybe weekly, update the average times for various tiers.  

I haven't submitted notes to PCGS although I do have a set or two in their note registry.  PCGS has sooooo many more categories for folks who collect nationals than PMG.  I've started a few as signature sets here at PMG and created one--the rainbow set (see https://notes.www.collectors-society.com/registry/notes/ViewPersonalCollection.aspx?UserCollectionID=1191&Tab=list) which unlike nicely toned coins means town or bank names with a color reference (i.e. Orange, CA, Brownsville, TX or The Blackstone NB of Uxbridge, MA (Charter 1022 is one of my favorite notes)).   Also I started a First through Tenth NB signature set here:  https://notes.www.collectors-society.com/registry/notes/ViewPersonalCollection.aspx?UserCollectionID=1229&Tab=list

  I'm happy to hear that PMG compares favorably to PCGS's grading times.

I meant to ask if anyone has a note dated Dec. 25 on a National?  Post it please... it will go nicely with my New Year's Eve note.  Kelly shows one from Christmas as I recall in the 6th ed. of Nat'l Bank Notes, it's from The Citizens NB of Ripley, OH.

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Sheik Sheck

I am like you. I know it's a long, long wait so I just predict what the grade will be. I am usually pretty close. However, the note posted below I purchased ungraded. It was crisp, perfect corners, clearly never had any folds...I mean the note is just spectacular. I thought it was going to grade 63 EPQ. And hoping it might even go higher :) When I received it, I was in shock. I have seen 40's that weren't even close to this note. This is the first note I have ever resubmitted. I will probably get the same grade, but this time I will press them as to what the flaws were. This not is so obviously never been circulated! I'll let you know when it returns from regrading purgatory!

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Today my notes moved into Quality Control.  I checked on the turn around time for economy and it is 28 working days.  With Veterans Day and Thanksgiving Holidays, it's been about 28 working days.

And one working day later, notes are in finalized ready to ship.  I have the grades.  I'm happy as they are pretty much what I expected or better.  When I receive my notes, I'll scan and post and provide a link here... for anyone that is interested :-)  By the way, did you grade my $20 PB from New Castle, PA (above)?  SPOILER ALERT-- It's in a comment-free PMG 25 holder now.  I had it as a F-VF as the back was better looking.  I'm quite happy with a Very Fine 25 for this scarce, Western PA note.

On the 24th, my notes arrived.  I've updated two sets with a few of the notes including the New Castle $20.  Several of the large notes can be found here:  https://notes.www.collectors-society.com/registry/notes/MySets_Listing.aspx?PeopleSetID=20872&SelectedTab=SetListing and my Warren NB notes are mostly all here:  https://notes.www.collectors-society.com/registry/notes/ViewPersonalCollection.aspx?UserCollectionID=1184&Tab=list

My PA small size nationals mostly ended up here:  https://notes.www.collectors-society.com/registry/notes/MySets_Listing.aspx?PeopleSetID=20873&SelectedTab=SetListing

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