mintcollector Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hello, Just wondering if a note can have Great Embossing on the label, but not obtain the EPQ moniker. Let me know if you have the answer. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRock Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 You bet. I have seen a "TON" of AU notes that have a center fold or bend and have all the embossing. Some even have "Punched" through embossing better than some GEM notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintcollector Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks for the info and happy holidays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 (edited) I think embossing is only one factor in determining EPQ, the whole point is that the paper condition is superb and original. So you might have great embossing, but another issue that wouldn't indicate the paper was in that original condition that is a requisite for the EPQ designation. This would be a good question for the Ask PMG section! Edited December 23, 2010 by jtryka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintcollector Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I think embossing is only one factor in determining EPQ, the whole point is that the paper condition is superb and original. So you might have great embossing, but another issue that wouldn't indicate the paper was in that original condition that is a requisite for the EPQ designation. This would be a good question for the Ask PMG section! I already called PMG on the phone, as I was thinking of buying a note that has Great Embossing noted on the label, but was graded long before EPQ came along. They stated it could go either way and I may have to resubmit the not for further inspection (i.e. regrade, not just reholder). Don't know if I want to take the risk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Well if it's an older graded note, then it might be worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRock Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 I say "BUY IT". It should EPQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weg Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I agree; that's what I said I'd do over on the the other side. It's a slight gamble but odds are in his favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintcollector Posted December 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Hello, I appreciate all the feedback, and I also posted this question on 'another forum' as well. I did have at least one person give me their honest opinion on the item at hand, and after a long thought, I may wait to buy it, as it could go either way, and number one, the price isn't that great; therefore if I took the risk, it really isn't worth it to me. This is not to say that this isn't a great note, but I trust the people who looked over it and they said that if one of the 'dots' that are shown just happen to be a pinhole (which is possible), there goes my EPQ... Therefore, I have put this purchase on 'hold.' I cannot expect the dealer (who is VERY ethical) to take any risk once I buy it, if I would resubmit the note to PMG. I would much rather buy a note that I would be happy with than regret the purchase and risk my relationship with this dealer who has helped me a lot in the past. It was a hard decision, but I know I can get this note anywhere as it is popular, but NOT rare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRock Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Great job buddy. Glad you pulled the trigger !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintcollector Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Great job buddy. Glad you pulled the trigger !!!! I didn't. I let it pass. It is not a rare note, by no means... I thank you for your help, as always! Have a happy new year! Sincerely, mintcollector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member CHAWK Posted January 12, 2011 Member Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Can "Great Embossing" be on the holder without EPQ? The answer is yes. As some of you mentioned, embossing is one of many factors. It should be noted that many things contribute to the EPQ attribution, so embossing does not go hand in hand with EPQ. It is very possible to have good embossing without receiving EPQ. One example would be if a note had a stain on it but was still original otherwise. Thanks for all the input everyone. A very good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
