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Impossible - 2023 March

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ColonialCoinsUK

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This month all of the notes added are from Mexico, some of which have been covered in other Journal posts as examples for the States of Chiapas, Campeche and Jalisco (‘Chiapas is Mexico State No. 5’, ‘Campeche takes the No. 6 slot’ and for Jalisco ‘The land of Tequila’)

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https://notes.www.collectors-society.com/registry/notes/ViewPersonalCollection.aspx?UserCollectionID=1822&Tab=list

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The first of the other notes added is the earliest date for the 10 pesos notes issued by the Banco Minero de Chihuahua, a reinvention of Banco Minero during the Revolution, and is dated 9th May 1914. The whole issue ran from Series A29 at S/N 330,001 with a Series change every 2500 notes continuing until S/N 630,000. This note is Series D29 and S/N 339498, so close to end (S/N 340,000) of this initial group. Collecting examples of all of the Series would be a real challenge, and probably much more difficult than searching for die numbers on Victorian sixpences.xD

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Whereas the Series for the Minero note are essentially known the next entry is included in the Set as it represents an unrecorded Series; Z. R. and, for me, just demonstrates that there is still so much to discover. (thumbsu The ‘note’ is a 20 centavos issue from Series 2 for the Gobierno Constitucionalista del Estado Libre y Soberano de Veracruz Llave. This note is also interesting as it is the first pasteboard note in the collection and also the smallest note at 53 × 31 mm.

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Another local issue is represented by a 5 pesos note from L. Guiterrez, Merida, Yucatan. In the late 1800’s there was a shortage of banknotes in Yucatan compromising trade so the major companies based in the capital city, Merida decided to issue their own notes from ~1874, one of these companies was L. Guiterrez Sucesores, established in 1860 and the largest hardware and haberdashers in the State.

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The last note added during March 2023 is another important Revolutionary Issue, a 1 peso note issued by the authority of Gustavo Baz as Estado Libre y Soberano de Mexico, Toluca. Similar to the notes above there is still much to understand about this Toluca Series, particularly related to the S/Ns for different printing runs across all of the denominations. This note is probably from the second printing of Series F as the attribution on the note is in italics.

 

It is great that this month the Set is back on track, growing by at least 5 notes per month, however every note added highlights gaps in the references and thus seems to generate a completely new area of research.:bigsmile:doh!:bigsmile:

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Amazing notes! I particularly like the look of the 1 peso, the engraving and print quality may not be on par with some of the others but it is nonetheless esthetically pleasing, and that bold red stamp. :golfclap: Looks like it was printed on some low quality or thin paper, like many of the notes printed by the "wildcat" banks of the U.S. in the mid 1800's. Was that note printed locally?

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On 4/4/2023 at 12:14 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Amazing notes! I particularly like the look of the 1 peso, the engraving and print quality may not be on par with some of the others but it is nonetheless esthetically pleasing, and that bold red stamp. :golfclap: Looks like it was printed on some low quality or thin paper, like many of the notes printed by the "wildcat" banks of the U.S. in the mid 1800's. Was that note printed locally?

Gustavo Baz seems to have been an interesting character. Unlike the merchants who had notes printed professionally overseas these notes were printed locally at the Boys’ School of Arts and Crafts (Escuela de Artes y Oficios para Varones) with some supervision to ensure quality and control of production. In addition to the 1 peso notes I seem to have some bulk lots of the 20c and 50c notes which has certainly helped in working out what is going on - still plenty of gaps though xD

https://papermoneyofmexico.com/index.php/history/estado-mexico/baz

On 4/4/2023 at 6:51 PM, VE Coins said:

Great looking notes added to your collection. I like the 20 cent note and it kind of reminds me of notgeld notes. Very cool.

The artwork on quite a few Revolution issues is quite basic, particularly those rapidly produced for immediate use as the fortunes of the various factions changed almost weekly. As soon as a town was occupied I just imagine the local commander asking the troops for someone who can draw so they can then pay themselves in new notes lol

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On 4/4/2023 at 1:51 PM, VE Coins said:

Great looking notes added to your collection. I like the 20 cent note and it kind of reminds me of notgeld notes. Very cool.

I thought it was Ebenezer Scrooge on the face of the note. xD Definitely looks like a piece of notgeld.

Pick up any notes lately?

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On 4/4/2023 at 4:54 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

I thought it was Ebenezer Scrooge on the face of the note. xD Definitely looks like a piece of notgeld.

Pick up any notes lately?

He does kind of look like scrooge lol, I finally got around to posing an journal update.

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On 4/5/2023 at 2:38 PM, ColonialCoinsUK said:

No idea what you are all talking about xD

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Ha! :roflmao:

I noticed something else with the 1 Peso the crop marks or trim/cut marks are really evident on the note, another reason I like it so much, were these printed on 4 subject sheets? I'm assuming that they were printed in a single column per sheet based on the markings, and four subject sheets seem to be more common at the time but.. (shrug) I believe the serial numbers would have been added to the notes on each sheet in consecutive order, if the other notes from the sheet could be found that would be sweet! An impossible, secondary, task for the Impossible Set.

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