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ddr70

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  1. ddr70

    Citizens United

    What do Ontario, CA and Glasgow, KY and Warren, PA have in common? Those are three towns of many that had National Banks with "Citizens" in their titles. David Wooster, a general in the American Revolutionary War has at least one municipality named in his honor. What state is it in? By the way, it had a Citizens NB and the note I have posted there happens to have a nice radar serial number. Keene, right? Yep, it had a Citizens NB and was one of the first banks to have BEP produced plates which was a reason for Series of 1875 National Bank Notes!
  2. Well there's a neat cross over to the stamp collectors of the world! I've got my perf. guage ready. What should I be looking for? Did you get AU 55s because of the centering?
  3. I collect mainly US Nationals, but no hundreds to date. I also collect US Type and fancy SNs and Canadian notes.
  4. I collect mainly US Nationals, but no hundreds to date. I also collect US Type and fancy SNs and Canadian notes.
  5. Why don't you blog about something that interests you? I occasionally write in my journal here pretty much exclusively about national bank notes. We have Zimbabwe very well covered with Revenant and Ukraine with Fentucky Mike. What do you collect??
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    Reconvening the 252 club

    PMG finally graded my bulk submission from last July. The $5 plain back on Ch. 252 made 30EPQ. It's here: https://www.pmgnotes.com/certlookup/8075269-007/30/
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    Rec'd at PMG, the wait begins.

    23 Dec. and my notes just moved into Grading. Maybe I'll have grades before the New Year and if the Post Office cooperates I might see my notes again before Inauguration Day. I see PMG updated their turnaround times for Bulk submissions to 82 days from 62 days. I wish I had mine graded in 82 days. Might as well go with 6 months if you're lucky as a turn around time. They did let me add a variety plus to my $20 Atlanta Ty. 1 replacement note which I do appreciate. I got the charge on my credit card well before the notes moved out of purgatory (i.e. received). There are 7 radars and a repeater in there and I wonder if I'll get them noted on the holder. At least those don't cost extra.
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    Christmas Tree National

    Here's my card to all here on collectors society. Indiana, PA The FNB Ch. # 313 J.R. Daugherty and J.P. Blain Strong stamped signatures PMG 30EPQ $10 1902 PB Fr. 624 SN 44344 pp J/995 dtd. Feb. 25, 1903 radar SN and Charter #. Earliest of 3 National banks located here. Indiana is a borough in and the county seat of Indiana County. The borough and the region as a whole promotes itself as the "Christmas Tree Capital of the World" because the national Christmas Tree Grower's Association was founded there. There are still a large number of Christmas tree farms in the area. The largest employer in the borough today is Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Two state note, two radars, too good not to share!
  9. Here's an account of Franklin's experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_experiment. At the very bottom, you learn that from the 'electric fire' spirits may be kindled... so it was likely spirits to be used as part of the experiment.
  10. Mica was used for anti-counterfeiting? Didn't Ben pioneer the use of a natural leaf as an anti-counterfeiting measure? I guess colored threads are more pliable and don't leave mica flakes in your pocket book. I always wondered about the boy with the jug... just what's in the jug?
  11. Nice before and after shots FM. I need to make something to shoot better pictures. Sometimes just improvising works. Check out the anti-counterfeiting threads in this paper produced in the mid 1870s... I held the camera and the note up to the window and my wife hit the button on the iPhone to take the image. Took two tries as Franklin had his eyes closed on the first shot. Red arrows point to a horizontal thread running the length of the note on this series of 1875 $10 National.
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    Brown Back Collage

    You're missing the replacements...
  13. Try clicking on your set's name, then on the history tab. The history will list by PMG number all the changes including the score changes. You may be able to recreate your set from the previous year and record the notes competing at that time.
  14. My Kelly, 6th Ed. has a population of 12 Small and he listed $1000 for a note in VF, so that offer was in the ball park. Only 96 sheets of ty 1 $20s were issued (6 notes per sheet). A different database (T&P) would have the current population broken down by denomination and type 1 or 2. I have a note on the Citizens NB of Albion, NY; I paid $625 for a Ty. 1 $10 in VF+; it's now in a PMG 30 holder. Neat town name and a pop of only 5 small (in Kelly), but New York is a common state. It's in this set: It's a pain to get them graded. Easier if you have a dealer close by that does a lot of business with PMG and would have it graded for you. Economy tier is up to $1000 value, so you probably have to use the Standard tier which is up to $3000. Cost is $25 vs. $45 and oh by the way, each submission has an additional $10 handling charge so you try to submit a bunch of notes at once to average out the shipping and handling fees. I have 2 notes to submit using this tier and am waiting for next year's membership dues for a statement credit towards grading. I'm guessing the FNB of Reserve was the best note from your father, but given the value, make sure there's nothing special about the other notes like a radar serial number. I do believe your note was printed by the GPO, but given its rarity, I don't think it would add much to the value.
  15. That note is hard to find as I can find no recorded sales on Heritage Auction's archives. I don't have my Kelly reference handy, but will check next week for population. Someone else may have population from Track and Price (T&P). Those are rather large signatures from the logo type which may mean it's an early production from the Government Printing Office (most notes were made by a contractor, BBS, and typically have smaller signatures (and a few other diagnostics for the logo type)). The logo type is the bank info including charter number and signatures. The town name is neat which adds to the appeal and Montana notes tend to have a premium. I'd grade it as a VF or VF+. Where did you find this note?? PROTECT THIS NOTE--DO NOT TRY TO IMPROVE IT IN ANY WAY as you will just damage it. Hopefully you know that already. Thanks for posting.
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    Rec'd at PMG, the wait begins.

    First week of November is gone and my bulk submission STILL hasn't moved out of received. I put the package in the mail in July. I'm hopeful I get the package by Thanksgiving now.
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    Disney sets need more collectors

    Yep, BEP reused the rolls for Caldwell, National Bank and even the "THE" (Texas is 6607 and NJ is 7131). Good eye. Looks like the Jersey plate got a little flourish between Caldwell and the tombstone. Caldwell is a city in the states of OH, KS, ID, TX, & NJ with 13 different banks! Two are Small NBNs only. Surprisingly, NJ has the only Caldwell with just one National Bank.
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    Disney sets need more collectors

    You can check out my signature sets as ones I would add in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier. Easiest to implement for PMG ought to be sets by Denomination OR Fr. # for the various series (original, 1875, 1882, 1902). Sets by region might be fun, but hard to implement as would be sets by states--an IT savvy person could do this and hopefully PMG has IT savvy folks protecting us from cyber attacks (I'd prefer not having my credit card info hacked here :-). First 100 charters is a fun set--I actually don't have one of those and for Small NBN collectors, 14000 and above charters are collected (that's a signature set I could start). Here's a Small NBN signature set I did start--I also have the set in Large--The A-Z set Another smaller, but fun set using the Bank title information--here you find banks with Union in their titles. One concept borrowed from NGC is the lowball set. Why don't we have these over here on PMG? Here's mine--I actually compete this one, but it doesn't work correctly like the lowball coin sets. Here's the set description: These notes served the Nation and their communities and then survived to this day. Where do your lowest grade notes shine? In a lowball set of course.
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    Disney sets need more collectors

    So there's 100 other LSNBN sets besides the top 2 owners competing sets--that's 4 times more than Disney dollar sets. Zibabwe has 14 different sets, so over twice as many sets as NBN sets. If you look at the top 3 in these 14 Zimbabwe sets, 8 are you. Now that's fine and good for the Zimbabwe collectors as they have a place to display and compete their notes. Ought to be more national bank note sets and I wouldn't have to make a 1902 type set for all of my favorite states (and two for PA and NY and MA). My complaint is about lack of sets--build a better place to compete Nationals and we ought to get more users and hopefully more sets with pictures to admire.
  20. There are 18 Disney dollar competitive sets, only 3 of which are in use for a total of 25 registered sets. For Large Size National Bank Notes there are 6 competitive sets, all are used for a total of 176 registered sets. For Small Size National Bank Notes, there are two competitive sets, both are used with a total of 141 registered sets. Can't NBN collectors get as many competitive sets as the Disney dollar collector? Or at least a few type sets like the Wavin' Mickey or Proud Goofy? Disney Dollars get denomination sets ($1, $5, $10, $50). That would be neat for NBNs; I'd prefer the $20 NBN denomination set myself.
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    Reconvening the 252 club

    No discernible difference--probably. Also, paper has a bit of give and if it collects enough folds that makes these 'landmarks' tougher to use--so you might end up with a false positive or a false negative. The other key thing to know--and you HAVE to know this one--PCGS has called more notes replacements INCORRECTLY (that's the old PCGS) and Heritage sold them as such, than ought to be acceptable to the collecting community. Best example is Lake Village, Arkansas The First NB in Ch. # 13632 NOT a Replacement, but PCGS lists notes from the SN 1 sheet as Replacements! The C position note sold 28 Apr 2013. You have the C position comparison above. There's no mistaking a C position replacement on a Ty. 1.
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    Reconvening the 252 club

    Nice that Sands' signature appears as calligraphy. The vertical on the L is thick as is the underline (horizontal) under Sands, so I suspect he just went back over those lines to make them thick when submitting the exemplars to the BEP. Then again, I got "Cs" for penmanship 50 years ago :-( 400600 is a fun SN, but I'd prefer the repeater 400400. I try to catch SNs on FRBNs, but I really don't pay as much attention to them as I do NBNs. I do look at the Philly notes more closely. Let me know if I miss one with a fancy SN that you don't want. The HA block is funny (ha ha). I should look for a nice AD block. Have you found out more about Sands? ad
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    Reconvening the 252 club

    Serial number and seals were printed simultaneously during normal production. At the end the numbering head was lifted and a few sheets were printed with just the seals (no serial numbers). These sheets were for any make up sheets to replace damaged or otherwise unsuitable notes. The serial numbers for make up sheets were done on separate 'paging' machines, one serial number at a time. The operator basically eyeballed it and many times they were dead on. We know this because one diagnostic for the paging machine is any C position note--the C is quite different from the C on the production numbering machines. The Atlanta note is a replacement, it has just about perfect serial number positioning, but from the non-standard C's, it has to be a replacement. The other diagnostic is the numbers looked rubber-stamped and tend to be mis-formed a little and sometimes there's ink splatter. Some production runs will have a tilt to the serial number, but the diagnostics I show above on the Pittsburgh note stay the same (Right SN 10 mm above seal and line thru center of seals goes thru left side of 4th numeral, 28 mm from bottom of left SN to bottom of right SN). So you can see on the Pittsburgh note different tilts, right SN too close to seal and line goes through the right side (not left). I measured 28 mm and 10 mm from a $10 in hand and found HE TREASUR is 10 mm and SECURED BY UNITED STATES BOND (Half of the D) is 28 mm. So I just use the picture of the note and MS Paint to cut and rotate those elements as my calibrated 'yard-sticks'. Doesn't matter the size of the Pic, if I cut those elements out of the pic, they represent 10 and 28 mm, respectively. [NOTE: you need different elements for $5s and $20s to use as your 'yard sticks'] So, tilt is an indicator, but a lot of production run notes have a tilt. The bottoms of the 0s just to the right of the 6 look incomplete and the Ds are less than perfect. To say it looks rubber stamped, I need the note in hand to best make that call. I think I see a tiny bit of splatter of ink, but you might see that much splatter on a normal production run note as well. Happy to advise on your NBNs. Let me know what you have. Sheik or I can probably tell you what you've got. Below, Atlanta is a replacement, Merchantville has the normal Cs which bow inward at the tips. The Atlanta note is in Sarasota with my Large Pittsburgh (252) note. They want to come home so badly!
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    Reconvening the 252 club

    Last journal entry was about my two submissions sent the end of July. The Economy submission I've rec'd and have been posting notes to my various sets. The bulk submission is still sitting in Sarasota since August 3rd. It has my $5 Series of 1902 Plain Back on Pittsburgh, PA The First NB at Ch. # 252 (along with 49 other notes :-(. I added this small size NBN on 252 yesterday. Great SN (D060000A) and a small size replacement note to boot! Signatures are those of long-serving cashier C.C. Taylor and relatively new president F.F. Brooks who replaced Lawrence E. Sands in 1928. Let me know if you want the details on replacements. Or just enjoy a small 252 while I wait for its large forefather to be graded by PMG.
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    Rec'd at PMG, the wait begins.

    The Economy submission went from Rec'd to awaiting grading to grades posted in a few days and the package is close to home, but not yet delivered. Maybe tomorrow. I'll likely be scanning this weekend and updating sets. The Bulk submission which arrived essentially the same day as the economy is still in the Received purgatory. S no update on the Atlanta Replacement. The Connellsville, PA note graded VF 20, so 5 points better than I thought. No EPQ. But it has RADAR SN on the labellebal ;0 Since sending my notes off for grading I picked up my 3rd $10 VB n The Commercial NB of Columbus, OH (2605). It doesn't have Radar on the label, but check out the bank sheet number!